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    Default How to play the intro to the Van Halen song "Tora Tora" on guitar.

    How to play the intro to the Van Halen song "Tora Tora" on guitar.

    I figured this out in the 80's when i used to record with a Tascam 4 track.
    Was always messing around with recordings.



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    Good stuff, johnny!
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    haha! Awesome vid Johnny! here's a question for you or anyone else for that matter. maybe you can post a Tube on this. How did Ed get that kind of two note/overtone whammy scream? (Sometimes you hear it in his horse, sound, especially on boots) Not his usual pinch harmonic stuff, that's second nature to me, but say in the SGAD/GGB portion where he's doing the call and response with Alex. I've never been able to nail that particular sound. I thought at one point, his tuning down to D in the old days had something to do with it, as it does change the harmonic of the strings' response somewhat. I also used to think it was the amount of detune in his Harmonizers, but there's definately something else going on there. Iv'e tried about every amount of pitch variation and regen to the point of it sounding rediculous. He appears to be hitting the G string second fret to get it. I've tried alternate stings in unison but nothin'. I never really heard him do it with the 5150 guitar on quite the same, but he did dig it up when he unveiled the Franky. Think it's a result of the particular pickup placement, and just picking up another overtone?
    Watcha think?
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    Sorry...SGAD/GGB in the US Festival vid. Realized I missed putting that in.
    Thanks.
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    Oh yeah i know!


    I grew up on the Us Fest too.

    Your talking about the "horse" with 2 harmonics?
    Ive always used the G & B strings together on the 2nd fret.

    In the interview he did with Lisa Robinson in 1984 he did his Elephant and Horse for her and you can hear him hitting both strings.
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    Ahhhhhh....I kinda thought so. Are they just straight open harmonics with whammy only, or is he pinching them both fretted with a unison bend? I was reading something the other day and a guy said it was on the D but with a particular kind of pinch technique. That's why I thought "Huh? Maybe his harmonizer up quite a few cnts." Did'nt make much sense to me. You got some time to pull off a clip of this? Would love to see it. I'm gonna try it tonight. Maybe I need a little more gain. I don't use a ton compared to a lotta guys, even on my 5150. I know volume helps drive harmonics too, but I rarely pull any Eddie stunts in rehearsal or on stage, and my studio has a lot of bleed still, so can't exactly crank 'er too loud. Just fun to do, or maybe use on one of my own tracks for the hell of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SLEEPER5150 View Post
    Ahhhhhh....I kinda thought so. Are they just straight open harmonics with whammy only, or is he pinching them both fretted with a unison bend? I was reading something the other day and a guy said it was on the D but with a particular kind of pinch technique. That's why I thought "Huh? Maybe his harmonizer up quite a few cnts." Did'nt make much sense to me. You got some time to pull off a clip of this? Would love to see it. I'm gonna try it tonight. Maybe I need a little more gain. I don't use a ton compared to a lotta guys, even on my 5150. I know volume helps drive harmonics too, but I rarely pull any Eddie stunts in rehearsal or on stage, and my studio has a lot of bleed still, so can't exactly crank 'er too loud. Just fun to do, or maybe use on one of my own tracks for the hell of it.
    shooting a lil video of how i do his "horse" right now.
    shooting his horse!
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnybeane View Post
    shooting a lil video of how i do his "horse" right now.
    shooting his horse!
    hahaha.
    Haha! A fresh one for us to beat the hell out of!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SLEEPER5150 View Post
    Haha! A fresh one for us to beat the hell out of!
    ok just did a video, uploading it now.
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    Cool man!
    Thanks!
    She looks so $#@!'n good ,so sexy and so frail....Somethin's got the bite on me, I'm goin' straight to Hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLEEPER5150 View Post
    Cool man!
    Thanks!
    welcome dude.
    hope it's what your talking about, either way i just had fun blasting my 5150!
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    ok it should be up any minute.

    here's the link -
    How i do the EVH "horse" on guitar.


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    Yeah man! That's it! I'll have to take another look at home. Just on break here at work. Awesome. Thanks again. See....I do single note harmonic dives fine. Just never really hit me until I downloaded the latest version of US Festival. The sound is so much better on that, it really popped out, and it got me thinking.
    Again....much thanks, and glad you had fun cranking the 5150! Never gets old does it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SLEEPER5150 View Post
    Yeah man! That's it! I'll have to take another look at home. Just on break here at work. Awesome. Thanks again. See....I do single note harmonic dives fine. Just never really hit me until I downloaded the latest version of US Festival. The sound is so much better on that, it really popped out, and it got me thinking.
    Again....much thanks, and glad you had fun cranking the 5150! Never gets old does it?
    Your welcome!

    I learned so much from watching "Live without a net" in 1987 when i first started learning guitar.

    Didn't get a VHS copy of the VH US fest till 1990, think i got the VH US fest and the Tokyo Dome Japan 1989 show on the same day.

    Yeah it's fun blasting my amp here because i never do - i use a POD X3 here most of the time.
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    Yeah. I kinda have to pick my days here. I got a neighbour that's working shifts right now, so cranking my Marshall or 5150 without my attenuator on it is'nt really an option! Haha. I remember one day; I was working on a part....real low and crunchy, with some real chugging palm mutes, but I was'nt getting the real bottom end of it on tape. Well, checked next door and her car was gone from the driveway, thought "Maybe i can skeak this in quick" so....turned off the attenuator, and pushed my old Marshall to around 7 or 8 uncorked. The next day, I got this note on my door. I won't go into it all, but the words "Bombs dropping and exploding", and "a team of horses galloping through her bedroom window" peppered the letter. Oops. Turns out she lent her car to her brother that evening. I felt bad about it and apologized. Were on good terms now, but i swear to God.....In a rental lease, they should put a check box beside "Can live adjacent to Van Halen Fan and or Hard rock Musician: Yes/No."
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