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    Default President Signs Bill that Allows Gun-Slinging AMTRAK Passengers to be Locked in Boxes

    That's right... The Passengers can be locked in boxes. LOL!

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    Harry Houdini made a career escaping from locked boxes. So did David Copperfield and Doug Henning.

    And now you can add AMTRAK passengers packing heat in their luggage to that list of escape artists.

    It sounds absurd. But President Obama actually signed a bill into law Wednesday that would require passengers who carry firearms aboard AMTRAK be locked in boxes for their journey.

    It’s a mistake. But for now, the clerical error is the law of the land.

    Earlier this week, Congress sent the president a massive spending bill that funded dozens of federal departments. Tucked into the transportation section of the legislation are safety requirements for AMTRAK customers who carry firearms on board the government-backed train system. The bill Congress passed mandates that passengers with firearms declare they have weapons with them in advance and stow them in locked boxes while on the train.

    The bill text was correct when the House approved the legislation last week and the Senate followed suit Sunday. But somewhere in between, the language that referred to putting the guns in locked boxes morphed into stuffing “passengers” into locked boxes.

    Aides to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) became aware of the problem Wednesday night as the House voted on its final slate of bills for the year. Pelosi’s staff tried to negotiate with Republican aides to see if they would agree to change the text of the bill without revoting the entire piece of legislation. But it was all for naught as Mr. Obama had already signed the measure into law.

    It’s clear the typo alters the intent of the legislation. But no one quite knows the origin of the mistake.

    Senior Congressional sources familiar with the error suggested the problem may have been introduced in the “enrolling” process of bills. Once both the House and Senate approve the final version of a bill, the text of the legislation is sent to an “enrolling clerk” who actually copies the bill onto parchment paper. The parchment version of the package is then sent to the White House for the president to sign into law.

    The misfire is fixable. But probably not until early next year. The House late Wednesday completed what it expects to be its final session of the year. The Senate remains in session debating health care reform. But both the House and Senate would have to agree to a technical correction of the text that missed its mark. And, the law states that AMTRAK has six months to implement the policy. So it's unlikely that any gun-toting passengers would have to travel in a box.

    The error is reminiscent of $289 billion farm bill President Bush vetoed in May, 2008. In that instance, both houses of Congress inadvertently sent Mr. Bush an incomplete bill, leaving out a 35-page chunk. The president then vetoed an incomplete bill. Congress discovered the error when lawmakers attempted to override the president’s veto.

    In that case, House re-passed the entire farm bill and overrode Mr. Bush’s veto.

    “This bill is one of the most-passed bills we’ve done,” quipped House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-MD) at the time.

    The rules to allow AMTRAK passengers to carry weapons with them are new. Airline passengers have long been permitted to transport weapons in checked luggage. But AMTRAK banned firearms from its trains after September 11th. Only police officers are now allowed to board AMTRAK trains with guns.

    Rep. John Fleming (R-LA) and Sen. Roger Wicker (R-MS) are the primary advocates of the AMTRAK gun provision.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VegasVic View Post
    Senior Congressional sources familiar with the error suggested the problem may have been introduced in the “enrolling” process of bills. Once both the House and Senate approve the final version of a bill, the text of the legislation is sent to an “enrolling clerk” who actually copies the bill onto parchment paper. The parchment version of the package is then sent to the White House for the president to sign into law.
    I had to comment on this part separately.

    Does anyone know the reason for this? This seems like a huge waste of time and money.
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    Just goes to show how closely our lawmakers read bills they pass in to law. Kind of makes you wonder why the healthcare bill has to be passed so quickly. I'd be willing to bet a majority of senators haven't even read the bills they pass.
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    I've flown with passengers that should've been locked in a fuckin box.
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    Well when this happens they could all start singing: "I'm ... the maaaaaaan... in the box!"
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    "I call it a lock box."

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    A THREE lock box?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Dreamer View Post
    A THREE lock box?
    Yes.... A Three Lock Box


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    Will AMTRAK or the Gov. supply these boxes or can I build my own? I just ask because I am a tall guy and I'd hate to get stuck in a box made for a short guy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sickman View Post
    Just goes to show how closely our lawmakers read bills they pass in to law. Kind of makes you wonder why the healthcare bill has to be passed so quickly. I'd be willing to bet a majority of senators haven't even read the bills they pass.
    The next bill should have something in it about not having brown M&Ms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VegasVic View Post
    I had to comment on this part separately.

    Does anyone know the reason for this? This seems like a huge waste of time and money.
    Because that is the way it's been done since George Washington was president. No use introducing technology now.
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