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    Default Gravity: The Official John Mayer Thread

    Didn't see that we already had one, so...

    I picked up Battle Studies this week, but now I notice the iTunes version of the album includes a cover of Springsteen's I'm On Fire. Coincidentally, this happens to be one of my wife's favorite songs. Did anyone happen to purchase that version, and, if so, could I get a hook-up with that track?

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    He has really grown on me. The guy writes good songs and he is as good a guitarist as is out there right now...not a shredder like some may need in order to respect, but in that Hendrix/SRV vein.

    I'm not a big fan of his vocals though...that whisper-scream thing doesn't really work for me and I'm glad he seems to be getting past that.

    He's a funny son-of-a-bitch and very intelligent as well. The one thing that holds him back, ironically enough (or maybe not so ironic) is his good looks.

    If he wasn't so damn pretty and didn't have all the chicks dying for him, he'd get more respect from the guys.
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    Fuck Mayer. After seeing what he did to Panama I've lost all respect for that talentless douche bag.









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    I don't know what to think of Mayer. I actually met him once before people knew him as a "guitar player". He sat in with Elton John and his band at a show in Anaheim and, surprisingly at the time, wailed over the song "Sacrifice". He seemed nice, and since then, we've only found out that he is pretty funny and a seemingly good guy, and I was surprised about his electric guitar skills since he'd only been shown as an acoustic guy with a singing voice kinda like Dave Matthews

    I have 3 of his records (even got paid to perform Daughters once), and I like some of his stuff, like No Such Thing, Waiting on the World to Change. I actually really like his covers of Bold as Love, and I Got a Woman.

    However, the stuff that people really like from him...I just find blah. I am really into singer/songwriters, and I like some stuff that isn't that exciting on the surface. So when I find his stuff a little boring and everyone else goes crazy about it, it makes me feel like I am out of step. I think many artists and bands do the introspective singer/songwriter, even if on the poppy side, better--and are way less popular, or even unknown (Ryan Adams, David Gray, Starsailor, Jamie Cullum, Jeff Buckley, Ray LaMontagne) .

    This is where I disagree with an above post: I think his looks totally, utterly, and completely help him. That, and being less edgy. So I think his looks, as well as being blah, actually make him as popular as he is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovemachine97(Version 2) View Post
    I don't know what to think of Mayer. I actually met him once before people knew him as a "guitar player". He sat in with Elton John and his band at a show in Anaheim and, surprisingly at the time, wailed over the song "Sacrifice". He seemed nice, and since then, we've only found out that he is pretty funny and a seemingly good guy, and I was surprised about his electric guitar skills since he'd only been shown as an acoustic guy with a singing voice kinda like Dave Matthews

    I have 3 of his records (even got paid to perform Daughters once), and I like some of his stuff, like No Such Thing, Waiting on the World to Change. I actually really like his covers of Bold as Love, and I Got a Woman.

    However, the stuff that people really like from him...I just find blah. I am really into singer/songwriters, and I like some stuff that isn't that exciting on the surface. So when I find his stuff a little boring and everyone else goes crazy about it, it makes me feel like I am out of step. I think many artists and bands do the introspective singer/songwriter, even if on the poppy side, better--and are way less popular, or even unknown (Ryan Adams, David Gray, Starsailor, Jamie Cullum, Jeff Buckley, Ray LaMontagne) .

    This is where I disagree with an above post: I think his looks totally, utterly, and completely help him. That, and being less edgy. So I think his looks, as well as being blah, actually make him as popular as he is.
    I think his looks and decided lack of edginess absolutely help him with the mainstream scene but I think they hold him back among the crowd that would name folks like Buckley, Adams, Moore, Klein, Garza and other modern singer-songwriters.

    In a way he is a watered down version of Ian Moore...safer, more will accessible to the mainstream.

    Though I'll take Ian Moore, Jeff Klein, Davie Garza, and Buckley over Mayer, I think it's great to see that kind of artist in the mainstream.

    As for Cullum, I've heard some of his stuff and it's been hit and miss. A few years ago he was a VH1, You Oughta Know artist and I thought he sucked. Then I heard and saw him at a Brian Wilson tribute show and he blew me away...absolutely stole the show. I've heard some of his stuff that VH1 was not promoting and I liked it.

    David Gray is kinda bland to me and Ryan Adams is hit and miss. Whiskeytown was great and some of his early solo stuff was really good but some of the more recent stuff doesn't do it for me.

    Starsailor I'm unfamiliar with but I have heard a couple songs and enjoyed them enough.

    LaMontagne I've only heard of...never heard...but what I've heard people say has been nothing but positive.
    Stay out of it, dude.


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    Quote Originally Posted by broken9500 View Post

    As for Cullum, I've heard some of his stuff and it's been hit and miss. A few years ago he was a VH1, You Oughta Know artist and I thought he sucked. Then I heard and saw him at a Brian Wilson tribute show and he blew me away...absolutely stole the show. I've heard some of his stuff that VH1 was not promoting and I liked it.

    David Gray is kinda bland to me and Ryan Adams is hit and miss. Whiskeytown was great and some of his early solo stuff was really good but some of the more recent stuff doesn't do it for me.

    Starsailor I'm unfamiliar with but I have heard a couple songs and enjoyed them enough.

    LaMontagne I've only heard of...never heard...but what I've heard people say has been nothing but positive.
    I'd NEVER heard of Cullum. Then I found myself loving him after NAMM 2008. Yamaha put on a free show, as they do time to time for their dealers (and actually that was when Mayer sat in with John in a previous show at the Honda Center/Pond). This particular show took place at the Hyperion Theatre at Disney's CA Adventure, and featured a 25 piece orchestra. Isaac Slade of the Fray played (boring), Jon Anderson played (not too bad), Sara Bareilles played (getting better), and then Jamie Cullum played. I was blown away. I immediately bought his complete iTunes Essentials, and have since d/l his new record not yet available in the states.

    A lot of David Gray can be bland, but when he hits, I think he soars way above Mayer. I am just now really getting into Ryan Adams, but so far am impressed.

    Starsailor I would recommend. They're kind of wussy Brits, but I really really like all 4 of their records top to bottom. Usually people either love them or hate them, no in between. However, they've gone beyond just singer/songwriter stuff. Their first record followed that mode, now their more pop/rock, though the singer writes everything, and plays the guitar.

    Here's their most popular song on iTunes, which is more rocking:



    Here's one from their first record which is more representative:




    I saw Ray LaMontagne perform "Trouble" live on SNL and I was blown away. Stupid Hulu only keeps videos a limited time, but here is a solo performance of the song that in some ways has been ruined by the stupid commercial:


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    John Mayer, the singer/songwriter whose rocky relationships with stars like Jessica Simpson and Jennifer Aniston are well-documented in the tabloids, sparked heated debate among his fans on Wednesday by dishing on all that -- plus his controversial feelings about race -- in the new issue of Playboy.

    "That girl is like crack cocaine to me," Mayer said of Simpson. "Sexually it was crazy. That's all I'll say. It was like napalm, sexual napalm. Did you ever say, 'I want to quit my life and just f---ing snort you? If you charged me $10,000 to f--k you, I would start selling all my s--t just to keep f---ing you.'"

    Mayer also spoke on Aniston, denying the rumor that his current single "Heartbreak Warfare," from new album "Battle Studies," was inspired by his most recent ex. "That woman would never use heartbreak warfare," Mayer insisted. "That woman was the most communicative, sweetest, kindest person…when you listen to Coldplay, do you think about Gwyneth Paltrow? I don't write songs in order to stick it to my exes. I don't release underground dis tracks."

    Released last November, "Battle Studies" debuted at No. 1 on the Billboard 200 and has sold 792,000 copies, according to Nielsen SoundScan. "Heartbreak Warfare" currently sits at No. 57 on the Billboard Hot 100, while previous single "Who Says" peaked at No. 17 on the chart.

    When asked how many woman he's slept with since splitting with Aniston, Mayer estimated, "four or five. No more. But even if I said 12, that's a reasonable number. So is 15. Here's the thing: I get less ass now than I did when I was in a local band. Because now I don't like jumping through hoops." Later, Mayer says "there have probably been days when I saw 300 vaginas before I got out of bed," referring to early morning binges on online pornography.

    In the midst of sharing his thoughts on sex, Mayer also took time to give a few eyebrow-raising soundbites on race, particularly his strong African American fanbase and his predilection for Caucasian women, when it comes to matters of lust.

    "I am a very…I'm just very. V-E-R-Y," Mayer said. "And if you can't handle very, then I'm a douche bag. But I think the world needs a little very. That's why black people love me."

    "Someone asked me the other day, 'What does it feel like now to have a hood pass?" Mayer continued. "And by the way, it's sort of a contradiction in terms, because if you really had a hood pass, you could call it a n----r pass. Why are you pulling a punch and calling it a hood pass if you really have a hood pass? But I said, 'I can't have a hood pass. I've never walked into a restaurant, asked for a table and been told, 'We're full.'"

    "My d--k is sort of like a white supremacist," Mayer went on. "I've got a Benetton heart and a f---in David Duke cock. I'm going to start dating separately from my d--k."

    Despite all this, Mayer insists, "I've never been a bad boy. I may have taken someone through the wringer psychologically, but I've never been sinister."

    Mayer's interview has already sparked controversy on social networking sites like Twitter, where he was a trending topic on Wednesday afternoon. Twitter user OneNiceDish wrote, "Seriously, what is wrong with John Mayer? Total asshat," while Billboard.com reader drdave commented, "I'm not sure if he is (a) joking, (b) trying to get a rise out of people, or (c) a real tool. Regardless, he's a talented songwriter, singer & musician."

    "Wow. John Mayer, you are just too open minded," tweeted neopoliandreams. "Thoughts like that should be nothing more than thoughts, 'specially if you're famous."

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    John Mayer addressed the growing outrage over his racially and sexually charged interview with Playboy on Wednesday afternoon, posting a series of messages on Twitter that started off with an apology for his use of a racial slur.

    "Re: using the 'N word' in an interview: I am sorry that I used the word," Mayer tweeted. "And it's such a shame that I did because the point I was trying to make was in the exact opposite spirit of the word itself. It was arrogant of me to think I could intellectualize using it, because I realize that there's no intellectualizing a word that is so emotionally charged."

    In the Playboy interview, Mayer spoke about his strong African American fanbase and collaborations with rappers Jay-Z, Kanye West and Common. "Someone asked me the other day, 'What does it feel like now to have a hood pass?" he said. "And by the way, it's sort of a contradiction in terms, because if you really had a hood pass, you could call it a n----r pass. Why are you pulling a punch and calling it a hood pass if you really have a hood pass? But I said, 'I can't have a hood pass. I've never walked into a restaurant, asked for a table and been told, 'We're full.'"

    "Again, because I don't want anyone to think I'm equivocating: I should have never said the word and I will never say it again," Mayer tweeted.

    After apologizing, the singer went on to reflect on oversharing in general, suggesting that he might filter himself during future interviews. "While I'm using today for looking at myself under harsh light, I think it's time to stop trying to be so raw in interviews... It started as an attempt to not let the waves of criticism get to me, but it's gotten out of hand and I've created somewhat of a monster. I wanted to be a blues guitar player. And a singer. And a songwriter. Not a shock jock. I don't have the stomach for it."


    While I agree that he shouldn't have used it, I still don't understand why there isn't as much outrage when a rapper uses it.

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    I just skimmed through that article and he seems like a major league asshole.
    Dealing with it.

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    What the hell was he thinking saying that stuff? He won't write songs about exes but he'll talk about Simpson that way?

    Weird.

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    well, given the forum and the audience, it doesn't seem that big a deal. The comments he made on race really aren't that outrageous at all. In fact, i think the point he was making was quite interesting.

    As for the bit about Jessica Simspon, it was complimentary after all...and again, it's Playboy, you gotta be a little smutty when you're talking sex with playboy.


    The part I didn't get was this:

    "I am a very…I'm just very. V-E-R-Y," Mayer said. "And if you can't handle very, then I'm a douche bag. But I think the world needs a little very. That's why black people love me."
    Is it just too early in the morning and my brain isn't quite firing on all cylinders or am I missing something?

    I also don't really get what a David Duke dick is...

    but really, it's nothing to get all in tiff about but hey, that's what people do these days so I can't say I'm surprised.
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    David Duke dick explained Broken.

    John Mayer loves black people and other people of color. However when it comes to banging women, he only bangs white women.

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    and here I thought it meant it was small and/or had a pointy end!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ziggysmalls View Post
    David Duke dick explained Broken.

    John Mayer loves black people and other people of color. However when it comes to banging women, he only bangs white women.
    oooh ok. Well, I'm the same way I guess. There are very very few black chicks I've ever seen, in person or on TV, that I thought "wow, I'd like to hit that."

    I just prefer really milky white skin. I dont' even like white chicks who have dark tans. It's just an aesthetic preference. Look at The Wife...she's almost see-through she's so white...and I love it!
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    I am not attracted to black women in general at all, and that doesn't make me a racist.
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