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    I have been craving a strat with single coils to play some blues and I have also been on a Gilmour kick lately. So this morning I decided to start researching his famous "Black Strat" guitar and plan on building it soon.

    I'm looking for as much research material as possible (data, pics, etc.). I see it went through a similar transformation as Ed's baby; 6 necks, a Kahler trem that was later filled in, short trem arm, black over 3 color sunburst, custom pups, weird switching that allowed bridge pup to be on or off during any other selection, etc. I'll likely shoot for the last configuration so it captures the most battle scars. the tone should be Wall era tone.

    If any of you are fans of that guitar and have good research materials, please point me toward them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YMI5150? View Post
    I have been craving a strat with single coils to play some blues and I have also been on a Gilmour kick lately. So this morning I decided to start researching his famous "Black Strat" guitar and plan on building it soon.

    I'm looking for as much research material as possible (data, pics, etc.). I see it went through a similar transformation as Ed's baby; 6 necks, a Kahler trem that was later filled in, short trem arm, black over 3 color sunburst, custom pups, weird switching that allowed bridge pup to be on or off during any other selection, etc. I'll likely shoot for the last configuration so it captures the most battle scars. the tone should be Wall era tone.

    If any of you are fans of that guitar and have good research materials, please point me toward them.

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    There's an entire website and book about it.

    http://www.theblackstrat.com/The_Bla...at-home...html
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    not much there except about the book. i'll probably buy the book but have read that it lacks technical detail. a good read nonetheless.

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    I've heard a bit of the opposite...that the book goes into quite a bit of detail without bogging the reader down in so much tech jargon and facts that it reads like a manual.

    What I was really pointing you towards though are the photos...there should be plenty of really great pictures in there for you to use when you're doing the distressing and relicing...

    good luck with the project!
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    The book is definitely worth looking into.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YMI5150? View Post
    I have been craving a strat with single coils to play some blues and I have also been on a Gilmour kick lately. So this morning I decided to start researching his famous "Black Strat" guitar and plan on building it soon.

    I'm looking for as much research material as possible (data, pics, etc.). I see it went through a similar transformation as Ed's baby; 6 necks, a Kahler trem that was later filled in, short trem arm, black over 3 color sunburst, custom pups, weird switching that allowed bridge pup to be on or off during any other selection, etc. I'll likely shoot for the last configuration so it captures the most battle scars. the tone should be Wall era tone.

    If any of you are fans of that guitar and have good research materials, please point me toward them.

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    This is THE site for your search...
    http://www.gilmourish.com/

    The Black Strat today
    The original 1969 model was bought by David at Manny’s in New York in May 1970. Originally the guitar had a maple 4-bolt neck with the large headstock as seen on the concert film “Live at Pompeii”.
    - Fender 1969 alder body with black finish repainted over the original sunburst finish.
    - Fender 1983 ‘57 reissue C shape maple neck with maple 7.25″ radius fingerboard and 21 vintage style frets.
    - Fender/Gotho vintage style tuning machines.
    - 1-ply .120” beveled black acrylic, 11 hole pickguard.
    - Fender neck and middle pickups dated 1971 (installed the whole pickguard assembly from a ‘71 bullet truss rod Strat in June 1973) and a Seymour Duncan custom wound SSL-1 bridge pickup (installed late 1979).
    - Vintage style synchronized tremolo system mounted in 1997.
    - Custom mini-toggle switch on the pickguard for neck/bridge combo.
    - Shortened tremolo arm to 4.25″.
    http://www.gilmourish.com/?page_id=66
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    Quote Originally Posted by voivod View Post
    This is THE site for your search...
    http://www.gilmourish.com/

    The Black Strat today
    The original 1969 model was bought by David at Manny’s in New York in May 1970. Originally the guitar had a maple 4-bolt neck with the large headstock as seen on the concert film “Live at Pompeii”.
    - Fender 1969 alder body with black finish repainted over the original sunburst finish.
    - Fender 1983 ‘57 reissue C shape maple neck with maple 7.25″ radius fingerboard and 21 vintage style frets.
    - Fender/Gotho vintage style tuning machines.
    - 1-ply .120” beveled black acrylic, 11 hole pickguard.
    - Fender neck and middle pickups dated 1971 (installed the whole pickguard assembly from a ‘71 bullet truss rod Strat in June 1973) and a Seymour Duncan custom wound SSL-1 bridge pickup (installed late 1979).
    - Vintage style synchronized tremolo system mounted in 1997.
    - Custom mini-toggle switch on the pickguard for neck/bridge combo.
    - Shortened tremolo arm to 4.25″.
    http://www.gilmourish.com/?page_id=66
    The bridge pickup is actually the duncan SSL5

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    I'm also planning on doing a Black Strat, but not to the same accuracy levels of my Franky. It happens that I also need a guitar with single coils, all I have has humbuckers there.

    I bought the bought to gather more information and I recommend the it, Kevin! Nice reading, not too technical, but gives a nice insight about the guitar, Floyd's sound and stuff. Funny that many people think that Ed was the first to put a humbucker in a strat, but Richie Blackmore did it before, same as Gilmour... in his black strat (S-H-S-S config).

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    A few weeks ago, I had a chance to jam on one of the relic'd Gilmour strats in a guitar shop in the city (Adelaide). It was bizarre... It played beautifully, but it looked kind of cheap.... I know its relic'd and everything, but if it didn't have the names Fender or David Gilmour associated with it, I wouldn't even pay $200 for it. Retails here for $7,500.

    Definitely the way to go doing your own one. I want to do one too at some stage, but if I do a relic'd strat, I want to do SRV's #1 first.

    Good luck with the build.
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    I just started doing mine. I have the Black strat book and there's a world of info there! I am using my Franky body from KNE - I knew I'd find some use for it! It's not alder, it's ash (heavy ash!!!), but I believe it will work out fine!

    One curious detail: when Gilmour added a 22 fret Charvel neck, with a Kahler tremolo system, the tuners at that time (and while the guitars was exposed in the Hard Rock Cafe) were Gotoh crown tuners!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nhotas View Post
    One curious detail: when Gilmour added a 22 fret Charvel neck, with a Kahler tremolo system, the tuners at that time (and while the guitars was exposed in the Hard Rock Cafe) were Gotoh crown tuners!

    WGAF?!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimi11580 View Post
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    Photobucket and Imageshack are a no-no, around here...

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    Quote Originally Posted by nhotas View Post
    Aaaah, Jimi and his invisible pictures... I hate this blocker!

    Photobucket and Imageshack are a no-no, around here...
    Who does your IT? The Gestapo?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimi11580 View Post
    Who does your IT? The Gestapo?
    Close, my military terminology speaking friend... but no cigar. It's a company policy. The web blocker blocks amazon.com, ebay, most sales sites, any site with the word "blog" in its address... thay think that will make people more productive. I just told them that I spend twice the time trying to find ways to get around it, might as well get rid of that thing, would be easier for everyone!

 

 

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