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    Default Ahhh, too much grain after first coat of black...What should I do?

    So I learned the hard way that I didn't put enough sealer on my Frankie body. I shot the first coats of black hoping it'd dry nicely, but too much grain is showing.

    What should I do? Sand it down and start over? Can I apply more sealer now and let the grain soak that up? Or would that be a nightmare for later when I'm relicing it and getting back down to the wood?

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    Seriously, though, the real "Franky" does have grain that shows through, particularly on the sides so, don't lose your mind over it!
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    Yeah, I know some grain is supposed to show, but this just looks like to much to me?


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    That does look like a little too much grain. It still looks cool though, but for what you're going for, I agree with you. A little too much.

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    Yeah I think it's a little too much, but I think it looks cool myself.
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    You could try just shooting some more coats of black on it and see how it looks. But I don't think it's too far off as is, especially since the red and white will fill in some and make it smoother.

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    No! Dont shoot!
    Dont shoot!
    This is actually part of the process. You didnt make a mistake at all.
    All you gots to do is sand down the black noce and flat. Even use a Mouse sander if you have one. Otherwise just a block will do. Use like, 320 grit.
    When you sand it. you'll see black paint fill in the grain. Tack it down and spray black again.
    Wha Lah! Grain filled just enough..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron4406 View Post
    No! Dont shoot!
    Dont shoot!
    This is actually part of the process. You didnt make a mistake at all.
    All you gots to do is sand down the black noce and flat. Even use a Mouse sander if you have one. Otherwise just a block will do. Use like, 320 grit.
    When you sand it. you'll see black paint fill in the grain. Tack it down and spray black again.
    Ron is 100% right. Follow his instructions to the letter and you'll be fine.
    I recommend using this type of flexible block:

    I would also recommend wet sanding to cut down on the paint dust. I used the same process for my Black and White Franky and it turned out fine.
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    Id be kinda afraid to wet sand. Only cause of the exposed wood. Even with sealer, Id be reluctant.
    Water does wacky things to wood. Might make the grain even worse.
    I just get weird with risky stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron4406 View Post
    Id be kinda afraid to wet sand. Only cause of the exposed wood. Even with sealer, Id be reluctant.
    Water does wacky things to wood. Might make the grain even worse.
    I just get weird with risky stuff.
    You're right, Ron. I guess I should really say "damp sand". I just sprayed some water on the flexible sanding block- I didn't actually soak it in water.
    I had to repeat the whole "paint, sand, paint" process three times. It's a long, tedious, messy work but worth it in the end...
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    Yeah. Ash is crazy.
    Fillin for a factory finish is a pain in the nuts too.
    But yes. Worth it.
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    You guys are the best. Heading to Home Depot to get me a flexible 320 grit block now!

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    I'm curious though... why does the real deal look like it does then. I'm pretty sure Ed didn't spend the time doing 3 different layers with sanding inbetween...

    What's the difference here? The paint he used?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrjstudios View Post
    I'm curious though... why does the real deal look like it does then. I'm pretty sure Ed didn't spend the time doing 3 different layers with sanding inbetween...

    What's the difference here? The paint he used?
    no 2 peice of ash is the same..and swamp ash and northen ash is also different, from my experience, northern ash has a bit more tight grain then swamp ash. In any case, sometimes just a few coats of grain filler will work...and sometimes takes a LOT more work. i just did a Tele body, swamp ash, GEORGOUS grain, but took forever to fill.

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    Was the original frankie body filled when Ed bought it? I doubt he would have done that himself...

    Oh, and I forgot to say, don't listen to me, listen to Ron

 

 

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