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    Default Strap Locks: Grolsch Beer?:)

    Hey all,

    I've been considering getting some strap locks. You know how in the time the leather etc around the holes that fastens to the guitar weakens and then they pop off etc. I always have my hand on the neck out of habit but will be playing out soon and don't want to worry about a Les Paul crashing to the ground etc.

    I've been investigating this. In the past I have used Schaller's and they suck.
    Though they hold well and the design is kinda sleek they have a habit of weakening the screw into the body of the guitar and eventually it will strip out.
    In a way this defeats the purposes and "damages" your guitar.

    A lot of people seem to prefer the Dunlop dual design strap lock system. It lets the lock rotate better than the Schaller so screw stripping isn't an issue. The issue I have is the screw that comes with it is much wider than what is standard on a Les Paul. Also the lock holds the strap end out a little further so it sits a little different for you. I also use Ibanez Jem's and I've read that the way they sit on them gives an even more awkward feel.

    Ernie ball has some I've never tried. A company named Hennessey makes some which I'm unsure about and Fender make some that look very similar to the dreaded Schaller ones.

    The EVH approach isn't really appropriate for the guitars I use.

    I may have already found my answer but I'm asking for your opinions and sharing this info for anyone interested.

    When asking a local musician about this he told me he used the red washer from a bottle of Grolsch beer. lol I thought he was kidding. He was serious and said not only do they work great, they last and cheap enough to replace plus they come with beer. lol I respect this guy he's a phenomenal Jazz bass player and it's what he does for a living so I searched the net and this is a common used way to lock your strap. lol Anyone here try it?

    I don't want to strip the screws out of my guitar, install some bulky lock and this seems like the perfect solution. So it's off to buy a case of Grolsch this weekend. lol

    Still I'm interested in what you all prefer for strap locks. How they work for you and if anyone has used the Grolsch washers?

    Here is one guy that posted on the web about them.



    I'm not sure I've ever seen a better solution. lol What do you all think?
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    I generally like the Schallers, but I use the Grolsch washers too. I've got one on my acoustic; a traditional strap lock seemed like overkill.



    Steve Morse uses them:


    I use them as sort of a permanent install (i.e., I don't take the strap off). I don't know if they'd stand up to regular removal, but I suppose they're easily replaceable.

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    seems like a simple and elegant solution to me, plus like you said, they come with beer and thats a bonus in my book. i use the dunlops though, mainly because i throw my guitars around a lot, jump dance and act like a fool. i wouldn't trust a simple rubber washer to be able to withstand the abuse, but if you don't jump, dance etc then i'm sure you'll be fine.
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    I really like the Ernie Ball strap locks, so far they are really good.

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    I'm with tommy, I'm not trusting a rubber washer to hold my thousand dollar guitars when I'm running jumping around on stage with them. I use the Dunlop Straploks on all my guitars, love 'em.

    I suppose if you don't move around too much it wouldn't be an issue.
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    1st set I ever owned was Schaller. They came loose more than once. Bought Dunlop's and search was over. Use them on all my electrics. The simple c-clip design rules! They haven't failed me yet.

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    You all are mostly mirroring what most say. For store bought locks get Dunlop. I thought the Grolsch idea was genius. Never heard of it b4 but it seems to be a commonly known practice. In the least I thought people here would get a kick out of it. I'm going to try them first. lol I move around a lot when I play but I don't know about literally running. lol Hopefully we will have the success to eventually play a place that has a stage big enough where running is an option. lol I'm not doing the over the shoulder guitar toss either so we'll see how it goes. lol

    The thing about the dunlop is I don't want to make the holes in my les paul larger to support the locking system. I guess I'm being picky but if I find the need I guess I'll have to bite the bullet. As it is now my hand is on the neck most of the time and I don't have a problem with the guitar falling but I just want added security.

    Thanks for the feedback and cheers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sbrening View Post
    I really like the Ernie Ball strap locks, so far they are really good.
    I haven't heard any first hand feedback on those but I've seen them listed for sale online. Do they allow the strap to move and don't weaken the screw into the guitar like Schaller's do? Do they come with their own screw to put into the guitar or do they grasp around the current one? Just curios. I guess I could search out some online reviews but it's always cool to ask.
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    Quote Originally Posted by At0micPunk View Post
    The thing about the dunlop is I don't want to make the holes in my les paul larger to support the locking system. I guess I'm being picky but if I find the need I guess I'll have to bite the bullet.
    I wouldn't worry too much about that. Here's a picture from "Beauty of the Burst" of Billy Gibbons' Pearly Gates. You can clearly see the old-style Dunlop strap lock buttons:



    And here's a picture of a '59 LP once owned by Joe Perry, then by Slash, then given back to Perry. You can see Slash added Schaller strap locks:


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    mmmmm grolsch, my fav beer
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    It's a no-brainer.... Go with Grolsch.

    Gonna go this route myself now. You're guitar is a rockstar, give it a beer!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bohsmug View Post
    It's a no-brainer.... Go with Grolsch.

    Gonna go this route myself now. You're guitar is a rockstar, give it a beer!
    lol so far so good. I was surprised how well they really work.

    btw 53 bucks for a case of 24 15.2 oz swingtop bottles. That is 12 sets of strap locks! lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by At0micPunk View Post
    lol so far so good. I was surprised how well they really work.

    btw 53 bucks for a case of 24 15.2 oz swingtop bottles. That is 12 sets of strap locks! lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by At0micPunk View Post
    lol so far so good. I was surprised how well they really work.

    btw 53 bucks for a case of 24 15.2 oz swingtop bottles. That is 12 sets of strap locks! lol
    I picked up 2 Grolsch last night as well to try it out...great excuse to buy beer!! I'll let you guys know how they work...
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    Quote Originally Posted by KS 5150 View Post
    I picked up 2 Grolsch last night as well to try it out...great excuse to buy beer!! I'll let you guys know how they work...
    hehe good luck. Remember these are good to reinforce your axe but if your going to go all Yngwie and do a over the shoulder toss you need something more substantial. lol

    Last night earned me another 2 pairs of grolsch strap locks I tossed into my case for future replacement.
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