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    Got this yesterday. It's a MusicYo Model but it's pretty comparable to my Newburgh in terms of playability and sound. According to an "expert" it's actually been modified with an original style transtrem (not the newer ones). I can't tell but it looks really new and I compared it to my other one and it looks exact.

    Anyone know how to spot the difference?



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    The main difference, and most easy to spot, is the newer ones (Gibson on) are casted, not forged. If you want to check it out....if you look around the edges, and back, or basically anywhere that is not cosmetically visible, you will see evidence of "casting flash", or pitting. This does not affect playability, but being that the components can be a little weaker and susceptable to wear, it's a good idea to make sure that the pivot points are lubricated well with a specific Steinberger lube or at the very least, a good quality white lithium grease. Also....and most important if it ends up being a cast unit, only tighten as much as you have to as to avoid slipage. It's natural to want to clamp things down tight, but with cast units, YOU WILL STRIP THE THREADS. I've accidentally done this to a Steiny S Trem, and I had to drill and retap the threads, and move up a hex screw size. I've also done this to a couple Schaller cast Floyd units, but that was in my gigging days, and some techs are a little more heavy handed than others. Good luck though. It looks like a sweet guitar!
    She looks so $#@!'n good ,so sexy and so frail....Somethin's got the bite on me, I'm goin' straight to Hell.

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    I should also mention that alot of very early Trans Trems depending on year, were painted, and not anodized or powdercoated. They were a baked finish. Taking a look at yours, at least in the pictures appears to be a 1st. version. In addition I forgot to mention that regardless of weather the unit is cast or forged, it's a good idea to keep the rollers lubed with a light oil. It's a real nice guitar. Have fun. I always loved the sound of working the bar and having everything still in pitch. You can create some real cool sounds with it. Do you know what pups are in that sucker?
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    I've got one of the $300 Spirit GT pro's...it's an awesome little travel guitar. One of these days...lol...a trans-trem GL2T will be sought after!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SLEEPER5150 View Post
    I should also mention that alot of very early Trans Trems depending on year, were painted, and not anodized or powdercoated. They were a baked finish. Taking a look at yours, at least in the pictures appears to be a 1st. version. In addition I forgot to mention that regardless of weather the unit is cast or forged, it's a good idea to keep the rollers lubed with a light oil. It's a real nice guitar. Have fun. I always loved the sound of working the bar and having everything still in pitch. You can create some real cool sounds with it. Do you know what pups are in that sucker?
    Yeah, some of the tuners are a little tough to move too - I have to check steinbergerworld to find the right kind to use - WD40 is apparently a big no-no.

    The pickups appear to be EMG81/89 (or whatever the matched front pickup is for the EMG81). Thinking of upgrading to a splitable one in the back. It does have a push-pull pot but it doesn't do anything. The pickups are all line/ground/power.

    I played this thing all day in band rehearsal yesterday. Picked up my MM Axis for a song or two and went right back to the 'berger. Could be that this may become my main axe.

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    Awesome, I love those guitars.

    I've got to get one someday....

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    I love the sounds you can make on a Trans Trem. It just sounds so evil cranked through a high gain amp and diving a chord, like in Get Up. This one definately looks like an actual Steiny type II, and not a late model Gibson or Musicyo unit. It has the Robertson type screwheads as well. The Musiyo's were either Phillips or Allen. Damn.....you got me wanting one again! One of my only complaints was string breakage. I used La Bella strings, and they started adding an extra high E string, cause it was a 50/50 shot it would break just after install. Real pain in the ass, plus the strings wer'nt that cheap either, and they were rarely in stock at one of our bigger stores. I'd usually buy several packs at a time, but if you ran out and the dealer did'nt have any, you we're out of luck. At least we have the internet now, so ordering isn't a big deal. My TT model was like Ed's, the GL2T in black. it had some mods to it. It had a switch and harness for a midi synth setup, but the pickup had been removed. Other than that it had some good EMG's in it. Tons of bottom end. Very decieving from such a small, light instrument.
    She looks so $#@!'n good ,so sexy and so frail....Somethin's got the bite on me, I'm goin' straight to Hell.

 

 

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