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    Russell Hall of Gibson.com recently conducted an interview with CHICKENFOOT/ex-VAN HALEN singer Sammy Hagar. An excerpt from the chat follows below.

    Gibson.com: Early on you described CHICKENFOOT as "like CREAM, without the jazz, with funk mixed in." Do you still feel that's a pretty apt description?

    Hagar: Yes, it is. When I say it's like CREAM, it's because CREAM was a strange mix of players who you might not think would be compatible. You wouldn't think Jack Bruce's bass style, and Eric Clapton's really elegant guitar style, and Ginger Baker's jazzy, swing style would blend, but they did. The chemistry created a special sound. And I think that's also what we have in CHICKENFOOT. Chad's [Smith; drums] funky style, Joe's [Satriani; guitar] shredding, blues-based futuristic music, and Mike's [Anthony; bass] distinctive style you wouldn't think those things would work, but the chemistry is very special

    Gibson.com: Were there any disadvantages to working with really seasoned musicians? Was anyone set in his ways?

    Hagar: There really is no disadvantage. We don't have those problems, and I hope we never do. The advantage of playing with guys who are this good is that when someone comes up with an idea, everyone learns it in about three seconds. You get songs so quickly you never get bored, and you never feel like the songs are being beaten to death, to the point where the life comes out of them. The songs stay fresh.

    Gibson.com: How do Joe and Eddie Van Halen differ in their approach to the guitar and in their approach to songwriting?

    Hagar: As a writer, Joe is faster. That makes him easier for me to work with, because I come up with things really fast as well. As soon as I hear a chord structure, I have a melody, instantly. And then five seconds later I'm writing lyrics. Working with Joe is great. If I say to him, "Hey, let's do something funky," next thing I know he's saying, "How about this?" It's like, bang, he's done. Whereas with Eddie, he would come back a week later and want to re-do something.

    But that said, working with Eddie was great, and we wrote great songs together. The Van-Hagar stuff still holds up fantastically well, but it was a slow process. It took three years to write the "For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge" album. And when I tried to do the Van-Hagar reunion, in 2004, and we were trying to make a new record, Eddie could only squeeze three songs out. He's just not as prolific, and not as fast. So that's the difference between them as far as writing.

    As far as playing goes, they're both phenomenal. The innovations Eddie came up with in early VAN HALEN before I was in the band were just so unique, he gets lots of points for that. But as just a straight-up player, who can play anything, and plays perfect every time, there's no one better than Joe.

    Gibson.com: Was there ever any consideration of your playing some guitar on the CHICKENFOOT album? Or did you feel that doing so might interfere with your giving enough emphasis to vocals?

    Hagar: I did want to put my emphasis on vocals, but had there been a need for me to play guitar, I would have played. Things were moving really fast. Joe and I would get together, and he would write some music, and I would come up with some words and melody. It happened so fast there wasn't time for me to learn the guitar part. First thing I knew, the song we were working on would be finished, and in the can. It took just 43 days in the studio write and record the whole album.
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    pertty fair assessment...

    question though, as he's describing Mike, Joe and Chad he mentions Chad having a funky style, Joe as having a shredding, blues based futuristic style and Mike having a "distinctive" style. What is Mike's distinctive style?
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    Ok...let the shut the fuck up Spammy begin! Truth is the guy answered a question. He didn't bring it up, he just gave an honest respectful answer. So suck on that bitches....

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    You guys can thank Sammy for giving Eddie the incentive to make another VH album and make it quickly.

    That is bulletin board material.

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    Yeah Sam answered a question,
    And it must be easier to work with Joe, but THERE ARE NO HITS on Joe's stuff with CF.
    Anyways I'm glad Sam is with Joe, and Dave is with Ed.

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    As a writer, Joe is faster. That makes him easier for me to work with, because I come up with things really fast as well. As soon as I hear a chord structure, I have a melody, instantly. And then five seconds later I'm writing lyrics.
    that might explain the lack of quality in their first album. Sammy seems to want to rush his stuff out now and not give it much time to grow and mature their songs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ED-A-HOLIC View Post
    Yeah Sam answered a question,
    And it must be easier to work with Joe, but THERE ARE NO HITS on Joe's stuff with CF.
    Anyways I'm glad Sam is with Joe, and Dave is with Ed.
    20 years ago when Metal/hard rock was at its peak, CF would have several "hits" off this album and be all over MTV....its a different time.
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    I don't really have any problem with what he said here outside of Mike's distinctive style of playing. Harmonies sure but bass playing was very pedestrian in VH and there was nothing unique about it. Revisionist history aside.

    There are pro and cons with rushing or taking your time. For me if it took three years for Van Hagar and three weeks for CF, I will take Van Hagar every time. However I will take VH1 which was recorded far quicker than any of them.

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    To say that it took 3 years to make FUCK seems to be exaggerated. In the time between OU812 and FUCk coming out there was a lot going on in VH land. There was the Monters of Rock Tour in 1988 and the OU812 tour in 1988/89, Cabo opened in 1990, EBMM guitar, Valerie was pregnant...etc. Sammy inferring that Eddie works slow and thats why it took so long between albums seems like a chance to dig at Eddie for no reason than just to dig at him.
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    Saying that Ed is a slow writer when he has composed three finished, released songs in over a decade is not a stretch.

    And no, porn soundtracks don't count!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
    Saying that Ed is a slow writer when he has composed three finished, released songs in over a decade is not a stretch.

    And no, porn soundtracks don't count!
    Not sure if this was directed towards my comment, but I will not disagree about 1998-2004 Eddie. Sammy mentioned the time between OU812 and FUCK and that was why I used that as an example. I think Sammy using this time frame to talk about Eddie's work ethic is a poor choice. Also Eddie's work ethic from 1978-1984 didn't seem to be a problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
    Saying that Ed is a slow writer when he has composed three finished, released songs in over a decade is not a stretch.

    And no, porn soundtracks don't count!
    definitely have a point, no denying but it's hard to celebrate sam's work ethic as he has spent the last several years doing the same tired act over and over again releasing crap record after crap record.

    Someone mentioned the idea that sam might be in over-rush mode where he doesn't want to take the time to get things right or make them as good as they could be.

    I don't think either extreme is better than the other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fletch5150 View Post
    Not sure if this was directed towards my comment, but I will not disagree about 1998-2004 Eddie. Sammy mentioned the time between OU812 and FUCK and that was why I used that as an example. I think Sammy using this time frame to talk about Eddie's work ethic is a poor choice. Also Eddie's work ethic from 1978-1984 didn't seem to be a problem.
    It also helps when you have things already written. Most of Dave era and the beginning of the Sammy era was already done. Or pieces taken. Most entertainers use things they have written down or stashed in the back of their heads. After that they need to actually come up with new ideas. I have not liked anything or had anything that stood out since the FUCK album. Nothing has been commercial either. Which is why VH or Sammy or Dave sell anything past their fans.
    I see what Sammy says as true. He just can come up with lyrics faster than most people. But it's the music that sells. Chickenfoot could have been a very good VH album. I see where Sammy wanted to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by valdez44 View Post
    20 years ago when Metal/hard rock was at its peak, CF would have several "hits" off this album and be all over MTV....its a different time.
    are you joking?

    CF has NO HITS, 20 years ago or today, a HIT IS A HIT.

    Maybe rushing things like Sam likes to do it now is the problem.

    But hey filling up clubs must be fun for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ED-A-HOLIC View Post
    are you joking?

    CF has NO HITS, 20 years ago or today, a HIT IS A HIT.

    Maybe rushing things like Sam likes to do it now is the problem.

    But hey filling up clubs must be fun for them.

    No, are YOU joking?? Have you seen what was considered a hit 20 years ago?? Chickenfoot has songs that many bands would have killed to have 20 years ago. There are hits in there if this was a different time.
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