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    Disturbing Propaganda or Disturbing Fact?

    Report: Iranian Militias Marry, Rape Virgin Prisoners Before Executions

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,...est=latestnews

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    Quote Originally Posted by voivod View Post
    Report: Iranian Militias Marry, Rape Virgin Prisoners Before Executions

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,...est=latestnews

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    i'd bet propoganda.

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    wouldn't surprise me if it was true or false...

    remember, just because something is propaganda, doesn't make it untrue.

    It's definitely propaganda.
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    Quote Originally Posted by broken9500 View Post
    wouldn't surprise me if it was true or false...

    remember, just because something is propaganda, doesn't make it untrue.

    It's definitely propaganda.
    i was wondering who'd be the first to point that out. Very nice broken, most assume that propaganda is false. In this case it could very well be true but it's certainly propoganda. The West needs to feel better about their hatred of that part of the world and the ridiculous expense of the wars and stories like this certainly do the trick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by It's Mike View Post
    i was wondering who'd be the first to point that out. Very nice broken, most assume that propaganda is false. In this case it could very well be true but it's certainly propoganda. The West needs to feel better about their hatred of that part of the world and the ridiculous expense of the wars and stories like this certainly do the trick.
    exactly. The story could be absolutely accurate but it's dissemination is, in and of itself, propaganda. It exists so that western culture, particularly the middle america sorts can feel further justified in the actions their countries have taken and to further erode any opposition these actions may have with other people in these countries.

    Let's face it, western countries like the UK and USA have, throughout history, done an incredible job of using the media to release propaganda. Some of it dealing with very accurate information and others, well...not so much.

    Propaganda, though having a very negative connotation is not, in and of itself, a bad thing at all. It's a neutral thing. Every country, every family, every church, every club every individual disseminates propaganda for one reason or another. Some of it is good and useful and others is well...like that Nazi film Rats.
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    I didnt read the articles, which in any case would only point out the tip of the iceberg.

    Voivod's statement is true. Regardless of virginity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aristotle View Post
    I didnt read the articles, which in any case would only point out the tip of the iceberg.

    Voivod's statement is true. Regardless of virginity.
    I have to ask why? If that is something you can answer.
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    Thanks for the verification Aristotle. Alot of people in the west can't realize this could ever happen. I'am not one of them. Just look at the ovens at Auschwitz. Never again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by broken9500 View Post
    exactly. The story could be absolutely accurate but it's dissemination is, in and of itself, propaganda. It exists so that western culture, particularly the middle america sorts can feel further justified in the actions their countries have taken and to further erode any opposition these actions may have with other people in these countries.

    Let's face it, western countries like the UK and USA have, throughout history, done an incredible job of using the media to release propaganda. Some of it dealing with very accurate information and others, well...not so much.

    Propaganda, though having a very negative connotation is not, in and of itself, a bad thing at all. It's a neutral thing. Every country, every family, every church, every club every individual disseminates propaganda for one reason or another. Some of it is good and useful and others is well...like that Nazi film Rats.

    I'm in midde America and I couldn't give two shits about what happens in Iran right now. Even if we wanted to help, we'd just be resented by the rest of the world for it, so fuck em'.

    At this point, I'm more concerned with the goings on in my own country, were there's more than enough political, agenda driven, alarmist media to go around.
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    I was reading some rant by Hamas militia that critisized Israeli troops becuase they didn't rape Palestinian women in their custody. It's just a fucked up part of the world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axxman300 View Post
    I was reading some rant by Hamas militia that critisized Israeli troops becuase they didn't rape Palestinian women in their custody. It's just a fucked up part of the world.
    Alrightythen!

    But why would the Iranians marry them before raping them?
    Does it justify the rape in their society?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Filthy 150 View Post
    Alrightythen!

    But why would the Iranians marry them before raping them?
    Does it justify the rape in their society?
    i suppose because it's no longer rape in their minds.
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    It is systematic rape. And it is especially vicious because it is done to create fear. We are talking about cases of young women dying from rectal or vaginal trauma.
    Why? I couldnt possibly fathom how or why someone could do this. The Marriage part is a misnomer. It is not a marriage, it is a designation of intimacy provided by a quick religious ritual, so that it would not be a sin.

    It is repulsive and it is one of many reasons why you are all seeing women so engaged in the current situation.

    I disagree that it is somehow a characteristic of this part of the world. Within the past 100 years I could point out similar crimes committed all over the World.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aristotle View Post
    It is systematic rape. And it is especially vicious because it is done to create fear. We are talking about cases of young women dying from rectal or vaginal trauma.
    Why? I couldnt possibly fathom how or why someone could do this. The Marriage part is a misnomer. It is not a marriage, it is a designation of intimacy provided by a quick religious ritual, so that it would not be a sin.

    It is repulsive and it is one of many reasons why you are all seeing women so engaged in the current situation.

    I disagree that it is somehow a characteristic of this part of the world. Within the past 100 years I could point out similar crimes committed all over the World.
    perhaps individual cases here and there but this sort of systemic problem seems to be intrinsic to cultures throughout Africa and the middle east...as is things like vaginal and clitoral mutilation. There is some sick sick stuff that goes on in some of those places.
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