Follow us on...
Follow us on Twitter Follow us on Facebook Watch us on YouTube
Register
Results 1 to 15 of 15
  1. #1
    Hot For Teacher danward5150's Avatar
    Join Date
    06.18.04
    Posts
    232
    Last Online

    06.11.16 @ 04:33 AM
    Likes
    0
    Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Default My new custom guitar in early gestation..

    Okay, so I've had this in mind for a while and it took me a while to find a luthier willing to do the work.

    I have a 1986 Ernie Ball Silhouette neck that I love even though the guitar sounded week (body size is pretty small to get a thick tone out of, not sure what kind of wood).

    The major issue being that it's a 24-fret neck and most body shops sell strat bodies fit for 22-fret necks.

    So I got the body from USA Custom yesterday - Swamp Ash strat style fitted for a Floyd, Rear Humbucker and a single coil front pickup (moved back to make room for the neck coming in further on the body). The luthier will be reshaping the neck joint area to accomodate the 24-fret neck.

    Putting a Floyd Rose Original (with brass block upgrade), Seymour Duncan Custom Trembucker and Fender Gold Lace pickup in the front. These are pickups I had around but like the tone of. I can upgrade in the future if they don't work but I think they will.

    I took a picture of what the guitar looks like laid out (just laid the neck where it will come in - pictures being 2-D help). So the first is what it looks like and then the second is quickly photoshopped with the proposed shaping of the horns for access to the 24th fret.

    I'll be sure to send pics when it's done. Probably will be 6 weeks. The guy doing the work used to work in Gibson's custom shop so I'm confident it'll turn out great.

    I'm leaving it unpainted, maybe a little oil to protect it. Any suggestions? I wouldn't mind making it a little darker but not much.

    I may add an internal Roland pickup to this later on but wanted to make sure I'd like the guitar before putting another $300 worth of electronics in to it.

    Whadda ya think?



  2. #2
    Good Enough
    Join Date
    03.23.05
    Posts
    1,780
    Last Online

    11.17.15 @ 08:56 PM
    Likes
    0
    Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by danward5150 View Post
    I'm leaving it unpainted, maybe a little oil to protect it. Any suggestions? I wouldn't mind making it a little darker but not much.
    Ash isn't exactly a guitar I would use for a wood finish ... it's too grainy.
    If you like the "look" of wood, I'd suggest just clearcoating it in urethane and buffing it out. Otherwise, I'd paint it.

    JMO

  3. #3
    Banned!
    Join Date
    03.06.09
    Posts
    1,235
    Last Online

    04.20.10 @ 03:48 AM
    Likes
    0
    Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Default

    Ash is actually the best looking wood for unpainted guitars. All fender's telecaster and some strat use Ash when doing a see trough finish. but it's a mather of tast as well. i love the large grain of Ash..but Like Dino said..it's not his thing.

    This particular body has some beautifull grain.

  4. #4
    Good Enough
    Join Date
    03.23.05
    Posts
    1,780
    Last Online

    11.17.15 @ 08:56 PM
    Likes
    0
    Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by al3d View Post
    Ash is actually the best looking wood for unpainted guitars. All fender's telecaster and some strat use Ash when doing a see trough finish. but it's a mather of tast as well. i love the large grain of Ash..but Like Dino said..it's not his thing.

    This particular body has some beautifull grain.
    I agree that the grain pattern of ash looks awesome.
    I'm just say'n that the grain itself is too deep for any sort of oil finish (IMO).

    I also agree that Fender does a nice job with thier "see through" finishes over ash.
    That's why I suggested clearcoat.

  5. #5
    Eruption
    Join Date
    03.04.08
    Age
    51
    Location
    Philly
    Posts
    1,058
    Last Online

    07.04.12 @ 08:16 AM
    Likes
    0
    Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Default

    Blasting it with nitro will darken it a little.
    But fillin in that grain will be the challange.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    "Talent is God Given, But Success is Hard Work"

    www.ronscustomguitars.com

  6. #6
    Atomic Punk chefcraig's Avatar
    Join Date
    06.01.02
    Location
    A Confederacy of Dunces
    Posts
    19,370
    Last Online

    03.07.10 @ 06:18 AM
    Likes
    0
    Liked 10 Times in 9 Posts

    Does anyone remember or have a good link to offer regarding those weird "raw finish" guitars Gibson manufactured in 1978 or '79? I'm fairly sure that they were made of mahogany, and sounded positively dreadful. I believe the outfit only made a few body styles in this manner (I vaguely recall a Les Paul Junior and an SG), and they more or less came and went with all the staying power of the Earth shoe.
    "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man."
    George Bernard Shaw

  7. #7
    Good Enough
    Join Date
    03.23.05
    Posts
    1,780
    Last Online

    11.17.15 @ 08:56 PM
    Likes
    0
    Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by chefcraig View Post
    Does anyone remember or have a good link to offer regarding those weird "raw finish" guitars Gibson manufactured in 1978 or '79? I'm fairly sure that they were made of mahogany, and sounded positively dreadful. I believe the outfit only made a few body styles in this manner (I vaguely recall a Les Paul Junior and an SG), and they more or less came and went with all the staying power of the Earth shoe.

    I think back then ('79), they were called the "Firebrand" series.
    The Gibson logo looked like it was branded on the headstock IIRC.

    I can't imagine them sounding too bad if they were all mahogany though.
    Maybe they just came with cheesy pickups ... I dunno.
    I never owned or played one.

  8. #8
    Good Enough
    Join Date
    03.23.05
    Posts
    1,780
    Last Online

    11.17.15 @ 08:56 PM
    Likes
    0
    Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron4406 View Post
    Blasting it with nitro will darken it a little.
    But fillin in that grain will be the challange.
    Nitro has a tendency to sink into the grain.
    I wouldn't suggest clearing ash with nitro unless you used some sort of filler.
    And I would think using a filler would sorta take away from the beauty of the grain.

    JMO

  9. #9
    Romeo Delight
    Join Date
    04.28.09
    Location
    Canton, OH
    Posts
    64
    Favorite VH Album

    VH1
    Favorite VH Song

    Unchained
    Last Online

    04.07.16 @ 09:08 AM
    Likes
    3
    Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts

    Default

    Not if you use black grain filler...

    Here is a guitar I did for a customer over the winter

  10. #10
    Atomic Punk chefcraig's Avatar
    Join Date
    06.01.02
    Location
    A Confederacy of Dunces
    Posts
    19,370
    Last Online

    03.07.10 @ 06:18 AM
    Likes
    0
    Liked 10 Times in 9 Posts

    Quote Originally Posted by Dino5150 View Post
    I think back then ('79), they were called the "Firebrand" series.
    The Gibson logo looked like it was branded on the headstock IIRC.

    I can't imagine them sounding too bad if they were all mahogany though.
    Maybe they just came with cheesy pickups ... I dunno.
    I never owned or played one.
    Thanks for the info, Dino. After some digging with the stuff you provided, I was able to find that I was in error. The SG guitar I owned was not made of mahogany, rather it was walnut. It's hard to explain, yet even playing through my 400 watt Peavey standard, this guitar sounded lightweight, even compared to my Ibanez Les Paul knock-off. On top of that, it was truly balanced in an awful fashion. You'd find yourself fighting the guitar as you struggled to play it.

    Oddly enough, for one reason or another, I've been looking for one to purchase again. Perhaps a change of pick ups from the relatively tame original issue models would be a good idea.

    In any event, thank you once again for coming thru with the needed information, as it is much appreciated.
    "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man."
    George Bernard Shaw

  11. #11
    Good Enough
    Join Date
    03.23.05
    Posts
    1,780
    Last Online

    11.17.15 @ 08:56 PM
    Likes
    0
    Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by chefcraig View Post
    Thanks for the info, Dino. After some digging with the stuff you provided, I was able to find that I was in error. The SG guitar I owned was not made of mahogany, rather it was walnut.
    Ahh yes ... NOW I remember.

    I think Gibson did put out a similar line of Les Pauls and SG's made of mahogany too.
    IIRC, they were called "The Paul" and "The SG".

    You may have better luck finding a sound you like out of those models.

  12. #12
    Romeo Delight Tapster1984's Avatar
    Join Date
    05.18.07
    Age
    31
    Location
    Washington State
    Posts
    54
    Favorite VH Album

    DLR era
    Favorite VH Song

    Mean Street
    Last Online

    04.29.13 @ 01:50 PM
    Likes
    0
    Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Default

    If you want a oil Finish on a deep grain wood, then I would recommend Grain filling it you can get Clear, Medium Brown and Black then sand down to about 400 grit then proceed to use the oil finish just remember tho Tru-Oil (Gunstock Oil) does have a golden tint to it so it won't be as white as it is now.

  13. #13
    Good Enough SLEEPER5150's Avatar
    Join Date
    02.13.08
    Location
    Canada's West Coast
    Posts
    2,281
    Favorite VH Album

    Fair Warning
    Favorite VH Song

    Hear about it later
    Last Online

    12.03.10 @ 03:16 PM
    Likes
    0
    Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Dino5150 View Post
    I think back then ('79), they were called the "Firebrand" series.
    The Gibson logo looked like it was branded on the headstock IIRC.

    I can't imagine them sounding too bad if they were all mahogany though.
    Maybe they just came with cheesy pickups ... I dunno.
    I never owned or played one.
    I agree about the pickups. Some of the worst pickups made by Gibson was from '77 to '82 from my recollection. Real week and microphonic too.
    She looks so $#@!'n good ,so sexy and so frail....Somethin's got the bite on me, I'm goin' straight to Hell.

  14. #14
    Top Of The World
    Join Date
    09.24.08
    Age
    45
    Location
    Voorhees, NJ
    Posts
    133
    Favorite VH Album

    FAIR WARNIG
    Last Online

    01.26.13 @ 09:47 AM
    Likes
    0
    Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron4406 View Post
    But fillin in that grain will be the challange.
    i learned that the hard way.

  15. #15
    Hot For Teacher danward5150's Avatar
    Join Date
    06.18.04
    Posts
    232
    Last Online

    06.11.16 @ 04:33 AM
    Likes
    0
    Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts

    Default

    Okay, here's some pics. Got a great guy working on it and he's had to do a lot of woodwork fitting the neck and cutting the horns. Body is almost there.


    Check out the pics of the work in progress (there's a bunch - he's very thorough) -

    http://photos.dlbassco.com/GalleryTh...=171058&page=5

 

 

Similar Threads

  1. Guitar Hero- Custom Guitar
    By punk5150 in forum VH Fans Meeting Place (Non-Music)
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 02.07.09, 08:16 AM
  2. Replies: 4
    Last Post: 01.16.09, 09:55 AM
  3. Custom Guitar By Edd And Wolfie
    By Wolfgang_'99 in forum Guitar Room
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 11.06.06, 04:59 PM
  4. authentication of early evh guitar
    By Big Fan in forum Main VH Discussion
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 01.23.06, 02:03 PM
  5. check out my custom evh guitar.
    By Van_Halen_4_Life in forum Guitar Room
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 08.13.05, 08:03 AM

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •