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    Hey guys. Just wondering if anyone else out there is dealing with hearing issues. I need some advice how to deal with this, or at the very least get this off my chest as a warning to others. As of late last year, I began noticing more frequent ringing in my left ear. (This is also the ear which tends to take much of the brunt of my amps). The ringing began to turn into a very severe ringing followed by, and this is where it gets hard to describe, but I'll do my best, an almost multi toned ditorted sound. The main problem is that this sound actually affects the way I hear pitch in that ear. it's at least several semitones lower and higher off of my right with this garbled distortion further coloring the sound. It's highly annoying, but at the current time is not non stop. It can last hours, days or weeks, but does clear up.
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    My question to all is this....Have any of you experienced this? Does this sound like a case of tinitis, or possibly just a medical condition that may just take care of itself? I've been to a doctor, had hearing tests, and despite years of abuse, the tests still come back good enough to surprise the doctor It's very strange.
    The reason I ask is after laying down some slide tracks last night, then going to bed, it started up in the middle of the night. The ringing is extremely loud. I'm not kidding. I actually put on my clock radio on just to break the incesent ring. Any suggestions of any kind would be appreciated. I do wear earplugs now when I play, and I record at lower volumes now than before, but wondering if theres any treatments that anyone has done, or other preventative measures that might help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SLEEPER5150 View Post
    Hey guys. Just wondering if anyone else out there is dealing with hearing issues. I need some advice how to deal with this, or at the very least get this off my chest as a warning to others. As of late last year, I began noticing more frequent ringing in my left ear. (This is also the ear which tends to take much of the brunt of my amps). The ringing began to turn into a very severe ringing followed by, and this is where it gets hard to describe, but I'll do my best, an almost multi toned ditorted sound. The main problem is that this sound actually affects the way I hear pitch in that ear. it's at least several semitones lower and higher off of my right with this garbled distortion further coloring the sound. It's highly annoying, but at the current time is not non stop. It can last hours, days or weeks, but does clear up.
    So far!
    My question to all is this....Have any of you experienced this? Does this sound like a case of tinitis, or possibly just a medical condition that may just take care of itself? I've been to a doctor, had hearing tests, and despite years of abuse, the tests still come back good enough to surprise the doctor It's very strange.
    The reason I ask is after laying down some slide tracks last night, then going to bed, it started up in the middle of the night. The ringing is extremely loud. I'm not kidding. I actually put on my clock radio on just to break the incesent ring. Any suggestions of any kind would be appreciated. I do wear earplugs now when I play, and I record at lower volumes now than before, but wondering if theres any treatments that anyone has done, or other preventative measures that might help.
    Thanks in advance.
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    Hey man, I'm sorry about the ringing in your ears. As a drummer this is something that I'm always concerned about even though I don't really wear hearing protection on a consistent basis. However, I recently went to a show where I was standing too close to a speaker and some of the frequencies started affecting me so bad that it literally messed with my equilibrium and I almost passed out. This was kind of a wake up call as this had never happened to me before. I actually had to go outside and recompose myself before going back to watch the show. Following this, I had pressure in my ears for a couple of days and fortunately it did go away. Now I will be more conscious about bringing hearing protection with me to gigs and shows I attend in case the volume does become painful.

    Anyways, there is a short article about tinnitus relief in the latest issue of Modern Drummer. If you would like, I could email you a copy of the page if you provide me your email address. PM me if you'd like and I'll send it to you.

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    After I saw Extreme in Houston last year I honestly thought I had hurt myself permanently. The sound in the club was awful. I was standing right up front, about 3 feet away from Nuno and Gary kept coming over and we were having a great time....but it was so loud I actually had to give up my space and go to the back. I felt it in the back of my neck, I felt it in my temples, I was nauseated and dizzy...it was bad.

    I was in awful pain for days and had this terrible distorted cloudy stuffy buzzing in my ears for about two days. Thankfully it went away. I can't stress enough how UNhealthy trying to be "rock and roll" can be sometimes.

    Seems like if you have ringing for days on end, that's a little more than "club ear." I would find a specialist in your health insurance book and see him. It may not be something a GP can help you with.

    Protect that ear. Use good ear filters anytime you're going to do anything...even if you think it won't be that loud. Hopefully you can get it to go away.

    My hearing, though not terrible, has suffered over the years from all the loud playing and shows. I'm very very vulnerable to loud noise...I'm constantly turning the volume down on the TV because anything above a slight whisper, hurts and gives me headaches...yet, it's difficult to hear. It kinda sucks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drummr View Post
    Hey man, I'm sorry about the ringing in your ears. As a drummer this is something that I'm always concerned about even though I don't really wear hearing protection on a consistent basis. However, I recently went to a show where I was standing too close to a speaker and some of the frequencies started affecting me so bad that it literally messed with my equilibrium and I almost passed out. This was kind of a wake up call as this had never happened to me before. I actually had to go outside and recompose myself before going back to watch the show. Following this, I had pressure in my ears for a couple of days and fortunately it did go away. Now I will be more conscious about bringing hearing protection with me to gigs and shows I attend in case the volume does become painful.

    Anyways, there is a short article about tinnitus relief in the latest issue of Modern Drummer. If you would like, I could email you a copy of the page if you provide me your email address. PM me if you'd like and I'll send it to you.
    Thanks. actually, I'll pick up the issue. My drummer wears those in ear monitor phone/ear plugs, as well as those Extreme Isolation jobs like Paul Gilbert wears. I thought it was overkill, but if he does not wear both, he's screwed. He gets roaring in his ears a'la Pete Townsend. I feel for him a great deal. He's still a great drummer and with the monitoring he uses, it does not affect our interaction. It surprises me he still wants to play though, but when it's in your blood....what can I say?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SLEEPER5150 View Post
    Thanks. actually, I'll pick up the issue. My drummer wears those in ear monitor phone/ear plugs, as well as those Extreme Isolation jobs like Paul Gilbert wears. I thought it was overkill, but if he does not wear both, he's screwed. He gets roaring in his ears a'la Pete Townsend. I feel for him a great deal. He's still a great drummer and with the monitoring he uses, it does not affect our interaction. It surprises me he still wants to play though, but when it's in your blood....what can I say?
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    can someone post a link to a better option than the standard ear plugs? I have tinitus in both my ears, my hearing has worsened over the years. Actually right now mine are ringing pretty good, due to a cold I have.

    When I jam with my buddies I always have my earplugs in, and when I went to the CF show at the middle east in cambridge ma, I had them on as well. Good thing, it was really really really loud.

    Back to the original post, the ringing probably won't go away. Mine never did, and from what different doctors have told me, its just something you have to deal with. I also use my clock radio at night with white noise to try and mask the sounds, but sometimes it just doesn't help.

    There are all sorts of vitamins and supplements out on the market that say they help with the ringing, but thus far I have had little luck with any of them. I do notice when I keep my sodium intake low, the ringing isn't as noticable...when I go out drink, eat fast food, the ringing cranks right up!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoHalen5150 View Post
    can someone post a link to a better option than the standard ear plugs? I have tinitus in both my ears, my hearing has worsened over the years. Actually right now mine are ringing pretty good, due to a cold I have.
    I've been looking into the products offered at Earplug Superstore lately, as they have a variety of options far beyond those ridiculous bright orange foam things you can purchase at Walgreen's. They offer a wide selection, and provide the needed info for making a decision applicable to your individual needs.

    Here's the link: Earplug Superstore
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    I have a little ringing especially in my right ear. I only really hear it when it's dead quite, like when going to bed etc. When there is some noise..whether it be the AC, or a computer fan, etc I don't heart it. Nothing you can do about it.
    Some temporary ringing may go away but real damage is permanent. Best thing you can do is try to minimize your exposure to loud volumes especially if you are a gigging musician and can't avoid it.

    As far as earplugs. I talked in detail about this a while ago with a guitarist that tours. His hearing loss and ringing is terrible and what he had to do was go to a doctor/specialist and you can get special earplugs made. He actually has to wear his most of the time to save whats left of his hearing. It's to the point with him where a car horn, ambulance, slammed door, etc hurts when he hears it.

    His ear plugs drop the db level but he said don't compromise the sound quality of what you hear(he was referring mostly to music and his guitar tone). The ringing in his ears has lessened a little but he didn't regain what he's lost. Still it's worth looking into. He said the ones you can buy without a doc don't work, sound, or fit as well. So if anyone has an intense problem with their ears and have to play out to make a living(can't avoid the loud volume)go see a specialist sooner than later. Some insurances may even cover this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by At0micPunk View Post
    I have a little ringing especially in my right ear. I only really hear it when it's dead quite, like when going to bed etc. When there is some noise..whether it be the AC, or a computer fan, etc I don't heart it. Nothing you can do about it.
    Some temporary ringing may go away but real damage is permanent. Best thing you can do is try to minimize your exposure to loud volumes especially if you are a gigging musician and can't avoid it.

    As far as earplugs. I talked in detail about this a while ago with a guitarist that tours. His hearing loss and ringing is terrible and what he had to do was go to a doctor/specialist and you can get special earplugs made. He actually has to wear his most of the time to save whats left of his hearing. It's to the point with him where a car horn, ambulance, slammed door, etc hurts when he hears it.

    His ear plugs drop the db level but he said don't compromise the sound quality of what you hear(he was referring mostly to music and his guitar tone). The ringing in his ears has lessened a little but he didn't regain what he's lost. Still it's worth looking into. He said the ones you can buy without a doc don't work, sound, or fit as well. So if anyone has an intense problem with their ears and have to play out to make a living(can't avoid the loud volume)go see a specialist sooner than later. Some insurances may even cover this.
    Consider youself lucky you can drown out the ringing with low levels. My ringing is there pretty much all the time except for loud environments, like work traffic, standing next to a 747 jet engine! LOL! As mentioned the distorted garbled hearing in my left ear comes and goes. It started to fade again on Sunday, and has been pretty good till today. (Whew!) I can't stress enough to protect your hearing. I never went into music to play as loud as I could to prove anything. it just goes with the territory. As you play you get accustomed to the volume and you tend to turn up. I swear the bulk of the damage has been done at jams and rehearsals, cuz' we're always fucking with levels. I'm just saying with all the improvements in ear protection that don't drown out the dynamics like they used to, there's no excuse not to wear any these days. They're so much better, and some fit so well you almost don't even notice them.
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    From the link provided by Chef (thank you by the way, never been to that store before!!)

    http://earplugstore.stores.yahoo.net/earsonics-pad.html


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    http://earplugstore.stores.yahoo.net/hehinasoearp.html

    That second set can be bought at any music store like Guitar Center. They are very good. I've never used the first set, but they look damn cool. Might order a set for myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by broken9500 View Post
    From the link provided by Chef (thank you by the way, never been to that store before!!)

    http://earplugstore.stores.yahoo.net/earsonics-pad.html


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    http://earplugstore.stores.yahoo.net/hehinasoearp.html

    That second set can be bought at any music store like Guitar Center. They are very good. I've never used the first set, but they look damn cool. Might order a set for myself.
    Thats is cool and earplugs have come a long way. Chef is very helpful.

    Still I stress to the Op and anyone else suffering from serious damage from playing in a band or other exposure to intense noise that has damaged your hearing..see a doc and get custom fitted plugs. I strongly suggest this cause of the dude I was talking to who lived in hell, was playing in a band to pay his bills and only got relief and protection from prescribed and custom fitted plugs. Just tossin it out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by At0micPunk View Post
    Thats is cool and earplugs have come a long way. Chef is very helpful.

    Still I stress to the Op and anyone else suffering from serious damage from playing in a band or other exposure to intense noise that has damaged your hearing..see a doc and get custom fitted plugs. I strongly suggest this cause of the dude I was talking to who lived in hell, was playing in a band to pay his bills and only got relief and protection from prescribed and custom fitted plugs. Just tossin it out there.
    would a regular audiologist be able to do this? Do you know what type of doc got the custome fitted plugs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by At0micPunk View Post
    Thats is cool and earplugs have come a long way. Chef is very helpful.

    Still I stress to the Op and anyone else suffering from serious damage from playing in a band or other exposure to intense noise that has damaged your hearing..see a doc and get custom fitted plugs. I strongly suggest this cause of the dude I was talking to who lived in hell, was playing in a band to pay his bills and only got relief and protection from prescribed and custom fitted plugs. Just tossin it out there.
    yep...the store bought plugs are really for preventative, one-size-fits-all, situations. If someone has gotten to where they have damaged their ears, they do need to see a doc and get custom plugs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoHalen5150 View Post
    would a regular audiologist be able to do this? Do you know what type of doc got the custome fitted plugs?
    I'm sorry I don't have all the details. I don't know if he went to an audiologist or a ENT (ears nose throat) doc. He said he had tried normal plugs and they didn't help him enough, through the doctor they custom fitted them for him and it's made a huge difference in his life. They aren't simply effective because they are custom fitted. They are high level protection. I don't know if you can search it out on your own online.

    I'm sure your doctor would know more, or simply calling a specialist can fill you in if you do have hearing issues, a musician and are considering this. I think they were over a grand.. or in that ballpark. Sorry it's been a while but a Doc can definitely help you more than store bought plugs... especially if you have real damage and hearing sensitivity from the damage. Thats all I know. Thought it was relevant and maybe helpful(a push in the right direction).
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    Thanks...i'll give my doc a call. Def don't want to loose or damage my hearing any further!
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