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    "I am a most unhappy man.
    I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is now controlled by its system of credit.
    We are no longer a government by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men."

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    Award winning film maker Aaron Russo's chilling documentary about the unconstitutionality of the Federal Reserve System, the illegality of the fraudulent income tax in the US, criminality of the IRS, the coming "Real ID" system and one world government.

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    Comments before watching:

    I love little bits like this where people try and use the Constitution in the most awkward ways to justify their grievances against the country.

    I'm skeptical that most of this is even debatable but I'll watch it and see...

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    Quote Originally Posted by The J Man View Post

    Comments before watching:

    I love little bits like this where people try and...
    Okay then. Any comments AFTER watching?
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    I started a thread on this a few months back, it is worth watching. Especially
    considering many of the points it raises have proven eerily prescient of our
    current "banking crises".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wruff_ajax View Post
    Okay then. Any comments AFTER watching?
    I made it through the first part, but didn't get a chance to watch the others yet. It is quite interesting though.

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    I'am pretty sure we have had more recessions/depressions since the federal reserve was created than before it was. It didn't stop 1929. It didn't stop 2008. But it did keep things going in 2008 to avoid a complete shutdown of the banking system. The best thing you can do if you think the federal reserve is a scam is to support the current bill in Congress to finally audit it and see what the hell is going on. HR 1207 which actually has some bi-partisan support.
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    Yeah HR 1207 has well surpassed the 220 cosponsors needed to become successful on the House floor. If it makes it to the House, it passes.

    Hopefully it's not amended to hell and rendered completely ineffective such as happened in 1978 when a similar bill to audit the fed was passed. Unfortunately, as good as 1207 sounds, I'm afraid the fed and its lobbyists will have it effectively defanged by the time it becomes law.
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    I have watched this movie a few times and I think it is well done, but I can't get past the fact that so many have been fined/jailed for non payment. There must be something, somewhere that details the law or is it just down to the wording - ie. The idea of labour as profit.

    btw. If you liked this, you should check out Aaron Russo's interview with Alex Jones where he covers a lot of stuff like this. I'm still not sure what to make of him, but he was an intelligent and convincing talker.

    Here's the link... It's the second film, "Historic interview with Aaaron Russo, fighting cancer and the NWO"

    http://video.google.com/videosearch?...q=aaron+russo#
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    This is the same sort of conspiracy junk along the lines of the "leftist" conspiracies about 9/11. Of course bankers and landowners, and those with all the money run everything. But to somehow tie the "government" in with this idea of a grand banker/govt. conspiracy is quite convenient to be mentioned now. Wonder where all these libertarians and government conspirators were when our tax dollars were being flushed down a cash toilet in Bagdad? Ron Paul, I thought you weren't that friggin crazy but you are.

    The only thing the government is guilty of is giving banks free reign over the so-called "free market" and giving HUGE tax advantages to them. Like giving the guy with a million chips, a million more, while the rest of us play with 7 chips.

    Remember, the whole idea behind this conspiracy junk is that "we shouldn't have to pay taxes... it's against the constitution!!" Maybe we should just all live on a ranch and let local folk build all the roads, bridges, sewer systems, use the judicial system (you know, sue!) anyone who puts crap in our water systems, and bag sand when that dang hurricane hits us again.

    I just think it's funny this kind of theory is getting the sort of traction it is, now.
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    Actually, the documentary was produced in 2006, well before the banking crisis.

    But indeed, to your comments, the documentary points towards many of the things that led us into said crisis. It didn't take a prophet to see it coming, nor to know what would be the underlying causes.
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