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    Is there a way to trade guitars/equipment while protecting your investment?
    Or is it simply a matter of the "honor system"?

    Anyone have any experiences or helpful tips?

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    Are you talking about making sure items are going in both directions? Or, making sure you're getting what you expect? Or both?
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    That's a tough one realy. Sending a peice of value across the country to someone you only know online, it's pretty much a leap of faith.

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    In my trades (and I've done plenty) I (being the business) ask that if the customer wants to trade that they send their item to me for inspection and then I make my decision.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DivebombInc View Post
    Are you talking about making sure items are going in both directions? Or, making sure you're getting what you expect? Or both?
    Well, yeah .... both.
    For example, what if one guy ships his guitar and the other party doesn't?
    Or what happens if you recieve a guitar case full of rocks?

    There have been times when I've been soilicited for trades or when I've thought about initiating a trade, but I've never really understood how this could be done safely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DivebombInc View Post
    In my trades (and I've done plenty) I (being the business) ask that if the customer wants to trade that they send their item to me for inspection and then I make my decision.
    That's more of a business transaction ....
    Easier to convince someone to send you their guitar when you have a legitiment business, website, and reputation.

    I guess that's a good way to do it.

    How do other folks do it though?

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    Could you imagine the cost of shipping on a case full of rocks? That would weigh like a really lot.

    You're the business so ask that you have a chance to see the item you're receiving before you make a decision. Unless you initiate the trade then you might have to do that the other way around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DivebombInc View Post
    Could you imagine the cost of shipping on a case full of rocks? That would weigh like a really lot.
    Okay .... sticks?

    Quote Originally Posted by DivebombInc View Post
    You're the business so ask that you have a chance to see the item you're receiving before you make a decision. Unless you initiate the trade then you might have to do that the other way around.
    Got it.
    I've entertained the thought but never even got to the point of an actual discussion.

    Thanks for the help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dino5150 View Post
    Well, yeah .... both.
    For example, what if one guy ships his guitar and the other party doesn't?
    Or what happens if you recieve a guitar case full of rocks?

    There have been times when I've been soilicited for trades or when I've thought about initiating a trade, but I've never really understood how this could be done safely.
    i collect custom pool cues, when there is a trade purchase or trade involved with a private party, there are a few companies that offer an escrow service. how this works is both parties would send each item to the company that does the service, that company reviews if each item as it was described. if all is well after that, the company sends each item to its new home. if its just a purchase, the item gets shipped to escrow, then purchaser sends payment. once payment is recieved and cleared, escrow ships item. the company makes money by charging a small fee for the service...in my case, usually $50 give or take for items that are valued at usually $2000-4000. not sure if anyone does this for guitars, but its a good idea and works well.
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    I've traded two guitars and both happened to be face to face. took some driving that actually was more than shipping, especially time invested but worth the headache.

    It seems most are trustworthy here but you never know I suppose...

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    I wonder if EBAY could'nt be used!...you post your item with a buy now, and other party does the same. you use the buy now, put any insane price. and use the "make offer" option. he makes a 1$ offer you accept it and vice et versa for the other party!..you get protection i guess that way....how knows. their most be a way to make a sage transaction

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    I've found when I have a customer who is out of state/out of area, I have them send equipment for consideration along with a $25.00 Postal Money Order, describing the item we're trading.

    By using the Postal Money Order, the sender is insured he/she get's the item otherwise the seller will be liable for mail fraud.

    The $25.00 Postal Money Order helps ensure honesty on both parties. I always have customer provides pics of item he/she's sending as well as copies of shipping paperwork. I also provide customer with a bill of sale describing trade agreements and items to be viewed/examined.

    You're really at the honesty of the seller when trading. If you can provide customer's with references, ebay ratings, etc. This helps provide some relief as well.

    It still boils down to honesty on both parties.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dino5150 View Post
    Okay .... sticks?
    wow wow, that's a different story Styx or sticks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by A&Z Guitar Repair View Post
    I've found when I have a customer who is out of state/out of area, I have them send equipment for consideration along with a $25.00 Postal Money Order, describing the item we're trading.

    By using the Postal Money Order, the sender is insured he/she get's the item otherwise the seller will be liable for mail fraud.

    The $25.00 Postal Money Order helps ensure honesty on both parties. I always have customer provides pics of item he/she's sending as well as copies of shipping paperwork. I also provide customer with a bill of sale describing trade agreements and items to be viewed/examined.

    You're really at the honesty of the seller when trading. If you can provide customer's with references, ebay ratings, etc. This helps provide some relief as well.

    It still boils down to honesty on both parties.
    So the money order serves as a deposit?
    Interesting ...

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    The money order serves as a deposit, as well as insurance for the original sender. The Post Office considers it mail fraud if you don't provide goods/services on items paid with Postal Money Orders. I recommend any customer who doesn't use Paypal or credit cards, to pay with a Postal Money order. It gives the purchaser a sense of security and it requires seller to be honest.

    If we choose to proceed with the trade, I'll cash the money order and return a Postal Money order for the same value to ensure both buyer and I are happy.

    I also require Postal Money Orders for Layaway items as well.

    Dino, I'd be willing to bet you can get the needed customer references if required. You've been forthright with me on sales/advice. I'll be glad to write a letter of recommendation if needed.
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