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    Default N. Korea Readies Long-Range Missile Test

    By ERIC TALMADGE, Associated Press Writer Eric Talmadge, Associated Press Writer 41 mins ago

    SEOUL, South Korea – North Korea appears to be preparing to test an advanced missile designed to reach the United States, a U.S. official said Monday, ratcheting up tensions after its second nuclear blast. Media reports say the North Korean leader's youngest son has been picked to be the next leader.

    The reclusive communist country also reportedly bolstered its defenses and conducted amphibious assault exercises along its western shore, near disputed waters where deadly naval clashes with the South have occurred in the past decade.

    Satellite images and other intelligence indicated the North had transported its most advanced long-range missile to the new Dongchang-ni facility near China and could be ready to be fired in the next week or so, South Korea's Yonhap news agency reported.

    A U.S. official confirmed the Yonhap report and said the missile was moved by train, although he did not comment on where it was moved to, and said it could be more than a week before Pyongyang was ready to launch. He spoke on condition of anonymity because the issue involved intelligence.

    On Tuesday, Seoul's Chosun Ilbo newspaper reported that the North could have manufactured up to four long-range missiles through the end of last year. That means the regime could fire more missiles after the one being readied for a launch.

    The paper cited an unidentified South Korean government official.

    Also on Tuesday, South Korean media reported that North Korean leader Kim Jong Il's youngest son, Jong Un, has been picked to be the reclusive nation's next leader. The decision came after the nuclear test and North Korean diplomats have been instructed to respect the decision, the Hankook Ilbo and Dong-a Ilbo reported.

    Little is known about the 26-year-old man. He studied at the International School of Berne in Switzerland until 1998, learning to speak English, German and French, the Swiss weekly news magazine L'Hebdo reported in March, citing classmates and school officials.

    The reports about the possible leadership succession come amid growing tensions stoked by the nuclear and missile tests.

    The latest activity at the launch site came as the United Nations Security Council mulled punitive action for North Korea's May 25 nuclear test, and ahead of a June 16 summit in Washington between South Korean President Lee Myung-bak and President Barack Obama.

    U.S. Ambassador Susan Rice reported Monday that key powers are making progress on a new U.N. resolution that will almost certainly expand sanctions against North Korea for conducting a second nuclear test in defiance of the Security Council.

    Complicating the situation further, a trial was set to begin Thursday in Pyongyang of two American journalists, Laura Ling and Euna Lee, accused of entering the country illegally and engaging in "hostile acts."

    The missile being prepared for launch was believed to be an intercontinental ballistic missile with a range of up to 4,000 miles (6,500 kilometers), the JoongAng Ilbo newspaper reported, citing an unnamed South Korean official.

    That distance would put Alaska and U.S. bases on the Pacific island of Guam — along with all of Japan — within striking range.

    Even so, U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates, visiting Manila in the Philippines, said that although North Korea does appear to be working on its long range missiles, it was not yet clear what its plans were for them.

    President Lee, hosting a conference of Southeast Asian leaders on the southern island of Jeju, warned in his weekly radio address that the South would "never tolerate" military threats.

    Lee Sang-hyun, director of the Security Studies Program at the Sejong Institute in Seoul, said the North's moves were calculated to get international attention.

    "North Korea wants to become a full nuclear state, then negotiate," he said. "As a nuclear state, it will have more to gain from the U.S."

    Tensions meanwhile increased off the Koreas' western coast.

    South Korean coast guard ships were escorting fishing boats near the island of Yeonpyeong, and Yonhap reported that North Korean troops conducted amphibious assault maneuvers along with training on speedboats that could be preparations for skirmishes at sea.

    The Koreas ended their three-year war in 1953 with a truce, but North Korea said last week it would no longer abide by the conditions of the armistice. It also disputes the U.N.-drawn western sea border, around which deadly clashes with South Korea occurred in 1999 and 2002.

    No incidents have been reported in the Demilitarized Zone that separates the two Koreas, and life seemed normal on the North Korean side of the Yalu River, which marks the country's border with China.

    A group of women soldiers patrolled the banks with rifles on their backs, while their male counterparts bathed in the river, using little red plastic buckets to dump waters on themselves. Dock workers unloaded big bundles of goods, while nearby a couple posed for wedding photos, the bride wearing a long traditional Korean hanbok dress.

    North Korea's media have defended the country's defiant stance, saying it had been provoked by South Korea and the United States. It said the number of spy planes operating in its airspace had risen dramatically.

    Experts said North Korea's nuclear capabilities, while improving, still do not pose a direct threat to its neighbors. The larger concern, they say, is that the North will try to sell its technology to others.

    Lee of the Sejong Institute said the international community's options were few.

    "If North Korea is determined to become a full nuclear state, there's nothing the international community can do about it," he said.


    ...sigh. Could we be moving towards another Cold War? Or perhaps a hot war?

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    They do this every 5 years or so when they get hungry and need some rice imported via negotiation and treaty. It worked like a charm every time under Clinton. I think he's just seeing what he can grab out of Obama.
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    The scary thing is, who is really in control over there? Is it really Kim Jong-il?
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    Quote Originally Posted by VanHalenRules View Post
    The scary thing is, who is really in control over there? Is it really Kim Jong-il?
    No.

    Sources say it's his cousin, Menta Li-Il

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    Quote Originally Posted by VanHalenRules View Post
    The scary thing is, who is really in control over there? Is it really Kim Jong-il?
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    Japan warns that North Korea may fire missile at U.S. on Independence Day

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    Last updated at 4:55 PM on 18th June 2009


    North Korea may launch a long-range ballistic missile towards Hawaii on American Independence Day, according to Japanese intelligence officials.

    The missile, believed to be a Taepodong-2 with a range of up to 4,000 miles, would be launched in early July from the Dongchang-ni site on the north-western coast of the secretive country.

    Intelligence analysts do not believe the device would be capable of hitting Hawaii's main islands, which are 4,500 miles from North Korea.

    Details of the launch came from the Japan's best-selling newspaper, Yomiuri Shimbun.

    Both Japanese intelligence and U.S. reconnaissance satellites have collated information pointing to the launch, according to the report.
    North Korea issued this image of a Taepodong-2 missile: It has a range of 4,000 miles

    This is North Korea's Taepodong-2 missile which has a range of 4,000 miles. Intelligence analysts do not believe it would be capable of hitting Hawaii which is 4,500 miles away

    North Korean leader Kim Jong Il inspecting the command of the 7th Infantry Division of the North Korean Peoples Army

    It is understood the communist state is likely to fire the missile between July 4 and 8. A launch on July 4 would coincide with Independence Day in the States.It would also be the 15th anniversary of North Korean president Kim Il-Sung's death.

    The Japanese newspaper also noted that North Korea had fired its first Taepodong-2 missile on July 4, 2006.

    Officials had initially believed that North Korea might attempt to launch a similar device towards either Japan's Okinawa island, Guam or Hawaii.

    But the ministry concluded launches toward Okinawa or Guam were 'extremely unlikely' because the first-stage booster could drop into waters off China, agitating Beijing, or hit western Japanese territory.

    If the missile were fired in the direction of Hawaii, the booster could drop in the Sea of Japan.

    News of the launch would put 'enormous military pressure on the United States,' the Yomiuri said, citing the ministry report.

    A missile fired from North Korea would have to travel 4,500 miles before it reached the U.S. state of Hawaii

    A spokesman for the Japanese Defense Ministry declined to comment on the report.

    South Korea's Defense Ministry and the National Intelligence Service - the country's main spy agency - said they could not confirm it.

    Tension on the divided Korean peninsula has risen markedly since the North, led by Kim Jong-il, conducted two nuclear tests this year in defiance of repeated international warnings

    The first rocket, fired in April, was widely seen as a disguised long-range missile test. A second launch came on May 25.

    U.S. satellite intelligence has shown that a missile launch pad had been erected at Dongchang-ri on North Korea's north-west coast.

    General James Cartwright, vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said it would take at least three to five years for North Korea to pose a real threat to the U.S. west coast.

    The UN Security Council last week authorised member states to inspect North Korean sea, air and land cargo, requiring them to seize and destroy goods shipped that violate the sanctions against arms export.

    On Saturday, in response to this declaration Pyongyang said it would bolster its nuclear programs and threatened war.

    Growing tensions come as arms-watchdog the International Crisis Group (ICG) claimed North Korea has several thousand tonnes of chemical weapons it could mount on missiles.

    The report from the non-government organisation said they believed the North's army have about 2,500 to 5,000 tonnes of chemical weapons which include mustard gas, sarin and other deadly nerve agents.

    ICG also also warned South Korea may become a target.

    'If there is an escalation of conflict and if military hostilities break out, there is a risk that they could be used. In conventional terms, North Korea is weak and they feel they might have to resort to using those,' said Daniel Pinkston, the ICG's representative in Seoul.

    The North has been working on chemical weapons for decades and can deliver them through long-range artillery directed on Seoul which is home to about half of South Korea's 49 million people and via missiles that could hit all of the country.
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    If anybody really pays any attention to politics and history it's generally a battle of ideology in which either side may have a case for their argument yet we are all under the influence of cultural relativism, so we always agree with our own country. But North Korea and their actions are completely unjustifiable, and they quite frankly need political reform and Kim Jong-Il and his entire family have to die for this world to ever reach some kind of amicable status.

    I remember a few years ago when it was reported that North Korean schools taught children that United States citizens eat South Korean babies. I mean, there's smear campaigns and then there's just trying to demonize a people to justify your aggression against them.
    And how the fuck does North Korea expect to do anything without being wiped off the map? They're going to be obliterated (and justifiably so) the moment they attack anywhere (if they ever did) and despite the innocent people who would die, we would have no other option. North Korea is just testing boundaries and the moment they get stupid enough they'll be destroyed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ain't Talkin' Bout' Love View Post
    If anybody really pays any attention to politics and history it's generally a battle of ideology in which either side may have a case for their argument yet we are all under the influence of cultural relativism, so we always agree with our own country. But North Korea and their actions are completely unjustifiable, and they quite frankly need political reform and Kim Jong-Il and his entire family have to die for this world to ever reach some kind of amicable status.

    I remember a few years ago when it was reported that North Korean schools taught children that United States citizens eat South Korean babies. I mean, there's smear campaigns and then there's just trying to demonize a people to justify your aggression against them.
    And how the fuck does North Korea expect to do anything without being wiped off the map? They're going to be obliterated (and justifiably so) the moment they attack anywhere (if they ever did) and despite the innocent people who would die, we would have no other option. North Korea is just testing boundaries and the moment they get stupid enough they'll be destroyed.

    Correct on all points. Remember though, that the baby eating bit has been done by just about every country's propaganda machine at some point, the west included. Just a nice way of de-humanising the enemy.

    Some people even believe it.
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    People also didnt think anyone would fly 2 planes into the WTC. Remember? This guy is crazy enough to do anything.

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    This could be the first international test for Obama and funny I believe this is what Biden said during the campaign that someone was going to test him. I don't believe the NK is that stupid that it would dare launch something toward Hawaii it is all bluf to get them to the bargaining table in which Bush said he would only do with 6-party talks not one one one.

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    When will the Obama administration run out of the "We're taking a wait and see approach..." & "We're watching things closely..." comments?

    All re-active talk... Very little pro-active action...
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    Quote Originally Posted by voivod View Post
    When will the Obama administration run out of the "We're taking a wait and see approach..." & "We're watching things closely..." comments?

    All re-active talk... Very little pro-active action...
    What would you suggest?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raoul Duke View Post
    What would you suggest?
    Honestly, I have no idea... It's not my job...

    What would you suggest?
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    Quote Originally Posted by voivod View Post
    Honestly, I have no idea... It's not my job...

    What would you suggest?
    Taking a wait and see approach.
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