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    Charges brought against three members of the New Black Panther Party for Self-Defense under the Bush administration have been dropped by the Obama Justice Department, FOX News has learned.

    The charges stemmed from an incident at a Philadelphia polling place on Election Day 2008 when three members of the party were accused of trying to threaten voters and block poll and campaign workers by the threat of force -- one even brandishing what prosecutors call a deadly weapon.

    The three black panthers, Minister King Samir Shabazz, Malik Zulu Shabazz and Jerry Jackson were charged in a civil complaint in the final days of the Bush administration with violating the voter rights act by using coercion, threats and intimidation. Shabazz allegedly held a nightstick or baton that prosecutors said he pointed at people and menacingly tapped it. Prosecutors also say he "supports racially motivated violence against non-blacks and Jews."



    The complaint says the men hurled racial slurs at both blacks and whites.

    A poll watcher who provided an affidavit to prosecutors in the case noted that Bartle Bull, who worked as a civil rights lawyer in the south in the 1960's and is a former campaign manager for Robert Kennedy, said it was the most blatant form of voter intimidation he had ever seen.

    In his affidavit, obtained by FOX News, Bull wrote "I watched the two uniformed men confront voters and attempt to intimidate voters. They were positioned in a location that forced every voter to pass in close proximity to them. The weapon was openly displayed and brandished in plain sight of voters."

    He also said they tried to "interfere with the work of other poll observers ... whom the uniformed men apparently believed did not share their preferences politically," noting that one of the panthers turned toward the white poll observers and said "you are about to be ruled by the black man, cracker."

    A spokesman for the Department of Justice told FOX News, "The Justice Department was successful in obtaining an injunction that prohibits the defendant who brandished a weapon outside a Philadelphia polling place from doing so again. Claims were dismissed against the other defendants based on a careful assessment of the facts and the law. The department is committed to the vigorous prosecution of those who intimidate, threaten or coerce anyone exercising his or her sacred right to vote."
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    Quote Originally Posted by voivod View Post
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    In his affidavit, obtained by FOX News, Bull wrote "I watched the two uniformed men confront voters and attempt to intimidate voters. They were positioned in a location that forced every voter to pass in close proximity to them. The weapon was openly displayed and brandished in plain sight of voters."



    A spokesman for the Department of Justice told FOX News, "The Justice Department was successful in obtaining an injunction that prohibits the defendant who brandished a weapon outside a Philadelphia polling place from doing so again. Claims were dismissed against the other defendants based on a careful assessment of the facts and the law. The department is committed to the vigorous prosecution of those who intimidate, threaten or coerce anyone exercising his or her sacred right to vote."
    So much for video and sworn testimony. Shame on the Justice Dept for just a slap on the wrist.Kinda gives a whole new meaning to working the polling places? Dont forget the Warren commision said Oswald acted alone.
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    I have a lot of respect for Bobby Seale and Huey Newton. They had a vision and the original Black Panthers were a huge part of the civil rights movement.

    I cannot support the new panthers or this fool Quanell X.
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    No surprise to me.

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    What's with the Shabazz name? Is that a real name??
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    Quote Originally Posted by smithjc View Post
    What's with the Shabazz name? Is that a real name??
    It's real for shit bag black racist no talent thugs.

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    Inquiry opened into New Black Panther case

    Inquiry opened into New Black Panther case

    The Justice Department's Office of Professional Responsibility has begun an official inquiry into the dismissal in May of a civil complaint against the New Black Panther Party and two of its members who disrupted a Philadelphia polling place during the November general elections.

    The inquiry is disclosed in an Aug. 28 letter to Rep. Lamar Smith of Texas, the ranking Republican on the House Judiciary Committee who first raised questions about the dismissal in May and asked unsuccessfully that Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. make available the head of the department's Voting Section of the Civil Rights Division for a closed-door briefing on the decision.

    In the letter, Mary Patrice Brown, acting OPR counsel, told the veteran congressman from Texas that the office had "initiated an inquiry into the matter" and that it would "contact you with the results of our inquiry once it is completed." A copy of the letter was obtained by The Washington Times.

    "I am pleased that someone at the Justice Department is finally taking the dismissal of the New Black Panther Party case seriously," Mr. Smith said Wednesday. "The Justice Department's decision to drop a case against political allies who allegedly intimidated voters on Election Day 2008 reeks of political interference."

    Mr. Smith said the department's refusal to provide Congress with an explanation for the dismissal "only further raises concerns that political favoritism played a role in this case."

    "Voter intimidation threatens democracy," he said. "These cases must be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law without political considerations."

    In January, the Justice Department filed a civil complaint in U.S. District Court in Philadelphia against the New Black Panther Party, claiming two of its members in black berets, black combat boots, black shirts and black jackets with military insignias intimidated voters with racial insults, slurs and a nightstick. A third party member was accused of managing, directing and endorsing their behavior.

    The complaint said two New Black Panthers engaged in "coercion, threats and intimidation racial threats and insults menacing and intimidating gestures and movements directed at individuals who were present to vote." It said that unless prohibited by court sanctions, they would continue to direct intimidation, threats and coercion at voters and potential voters "by again deploying uniformed and armed members at the entrance to polling locations in future elections, both in Philadelphia and throughout the country."

    The original incident was captured on videotape and gained national attention after the video was distributed on YouTube.

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    Former Justice Attorney Set to Testify in New Black Panther Case

    A former Justice official who claims the administration backed off a voter intimidation case against the New Black Panther Party for racial reasons is set to testify Tuesday before the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights.

    The testimony from J. Christian Adams, who resigned from the Justice Department last month in protest of the administration's handling of the case, comes after he made a series of explosive allegations during an interview with Fox News last week. He said the administration abandoned an open-and-shut case of voter intimidation and that Assistant Attorney General Thomas Perez gave false testimony before the commission in May.

    Adams claims the administration has failed to prosecute non-whites when it comes to voting intimidation cases and that the New Black Panther incident demonstrates that.

    The case stems from an incident on Election Day in 2008 in Philadelphia, where members of the New Black Panther Party were videotaped in front of a polling place, dressed in military-style uniforms and allegedly hurling racial slurs while one brandished a night stick.

    Adams called the case "a slam dunk," telling Fox News that "nobody thought there was any doubt that this was the clearest case of voter intimidation that I've seen since I've been practicing law."

    The Justice Department disagrees, saying it enforces voting rights laws equally. In a written statement, the department questioned the motives of Adams, now an attorney in Virginia and a blogger for Pajamas Media.

    The Obama administration initially pursued the case, winning a default judgment in federal court in April 2009 when the Black Panther members did not appear in court.

    But then the administration moved to dismiss the charges the following month after getting one of the New Black Panther members to agree to not carry a "deadly weapon" near a polling place until 2012.

    The department boasted that justice had been served.



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    Quote Originally Posted by shamalama View Post
    Impeach Obama. Now!
    Never happen not in a million years.....nothing sticks to this guy. I wasn't a fan of the Bushs but between Clinton and Obama theres not a week or two that ever goes by without some type of shit like this. Daddy Bush just was plain old boring and Jr Bush had the Scooter Libby thing but that mostly involved Dick Cheney. Shame neither of them did anything good either.
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    Bushes, Clinton, Obama....Same men, different face. Last great president? Kennedy?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ View Post
    Bushes, Clinton, Obama....Same men, different face. Last great president? Kennedy?
    I think Reagan was the last good president , I don't think the word great is synonymous with president anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by broken9500 View Post
    I have a lot of respect for Bobby Seale and Huey Newton. They had a vision and the original Black Panthers were a huge part of the civil rights movement.

    I cannot support the new panthers or this fool Quanell X.
    I agree about Bobby, Huey, Eldridge, and David Hilliard. It's a shame it all fell apart for them and they all turned to drugs. I think that Bobby is the only one that still has his stuff together. He gives speeches at Universities and things like that.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ View Post
    Bushes, Clinton, Obama....Same men, different face. Last great president? Kennedy?
    Kennedy was well before my time but it seems he had his shortcomings too.
    Quote Originally Posted by shamalama View Post
    I think Reagan was the last good president , I don't think the word great is synonymous with president anymore.
    I couldn't stand Reagan. I thought he was a senile old goat out of touch with reality. As a matter of fact, McCain reminded me of Reagan when he was saying before the elections that the US wasn't in a recession.

    I liked Clinton. For all the soap opera side show stuff, the US economy was booming and people felt good about being Americans. Works for me.

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    It's sad that I feel nostalgic for the Clinton era, but financially, things did seem a lot better. Still, he made a mockery of the oval office with his shenanigans, he probably could've done something about Al Qaeda before we got where we are now, and, though no fault of Willie's, music started to go downhill pretty much during his time in office. Life was probably better in the Reagan years.

    I don't think Kennedy was any better than what's come after him. I'm not sure who our last great president was, really...

 

 

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