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    Default Ammunition Accountability Legislation

    > Ammunition Accountability Act
    >
    > Did you know anything about this?
    >
    > Pennsylvania is one of the states mentioned. The gun
    > control liberals got a setback when the Supreme Court upheld
    > the 2nd amendment rights in Wash. DC. Now they are trying
    > to come thru the back door.
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    > Please forward this to all you know that want to keep their
    > guns!!!!
    >
    > Maybe we can start a ground swell, or continue it at least,
    > that will go all over
    > the U.S. and have a positive impact on the outcome.
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    >
    > Remember how Obama said that he wasn't going to take
    > your guns? Well, it seems that his minions and allies in the
    > anti-gun world have no problem with taking your ammo! The
    > bill that is being pushed in 18 states
    (including Illinois
    > and Indiana) requires all ammunition to be encoded by the
    > manufacture a database of all ammunition sales. So they will
    > know how much you buy and what calibers. Nobody can sell any
    > ammunition after June 30, 2009 unless the ammunition is
    > coded. Any privately held un-coded
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    > ammunition must be destroyed by July 1, 2011.(lncluding
    > hand loaded ammo.)
    > They will also charge a.OS cent tax on every round so every
    > box of ammo you buy will go up at least $2.50 or more! If
    > they can deprive you of ammo then they do not need to take
    > your gun!
    >
    > This legislation is currently pending in 18 states:
    > Alabama, Arizona, California, Connecticut, Hawaii, Illinois,
    > Indiana, Kentucky, Maryland, Mississippi, Missouri, New
    > Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South
    > Carolina, Tennessee, and Washington. To find
    more about the
    > anti-gun group that is sponsoring this legislation
    > and the specific legislation for each state, go to:
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    > http://ammunitionaccountability.org/Legislation.htm
    The Ammunition Accountability Act is real, but the e-mail is a hoax. All sponsored AAA Legislation came up in 2007 and 2008 and none made it to a vote.

    Here is what happened to AAA legislation in the 18 states it came up (info was either obtained via phone calls to state legislatures or use of state Web sites):

    Alabama Senate Bill 541: It was indefinitely postponed in House of origin. It will not pass and would have to be reintroduced.

    Arizona House Bill 2833: It never got heard in any committee. Never voted on. It would have to be reintroduced.

    California Senate Bill 997: SB997 has no Info on it, and died in committee. SB1471 passed and is now known as the "Crime Gun Identification Act of 2007." It was authored by Assemblymember Mike Feuer (D-Los Angeles) and was signed by Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger. You can read the final bill here. The bill is in regard to handguns and microstamping, not ammunition. It also has no wording in it that would indicate that citizens would need to turn in their guns. It could also be rendered moot depending on the technology. It is not a part of the AAA agenda.

    Connecticut Raised Bill 603: The bill was raised and had a public hearing. No action was taken. Bill would need to be re-introduced.

    Hawaii House Bill 2392, Hawaii Senate Bill 2020, Hawaii Senate Bill 2076: All bills were deferred to the judiciary with no further action taken. Bill would need to be reintroduced.

    Illinois House Bills 4258, 4259, 4269, 4349. Illinois Senate Bill 1095: All bills referred to Rules Committee. No other actions were taken.

    Indiana House Bill 1260: Was sent to committee and not acted on again. It would need to be reintroduced.

    Kentucky House Bill 715: Was withdrawn.

    Maryland House Bill 517: No copy of the report. It didn't pass. Would need to be reintroduced.

    Mississippi Senate Bill 2286: Died in Committee.

    Missouri Senate Bill 1200: Referred to Judiciary. Would need to be reintroduced.

    New Jersey Assembly Bill 2490: Referred to Assembly Law and Public Safety Committee. Would need to be reintroduced.

    Pennsylvania House Bill: Referred to the Judiciary on Feb. 5, 2008. No other action taken.

    Rhode Island Senate Bill 2742: Committee recommended measure be held for further study. It would need to be reintroduced.

    South Carolina Senate Bill 1259: Was referred to a subcommittee with no further action taken. Would need to be reintroduced.

    Tennessee House Bill 3245, Tennessee Senate Bill 3395: Both were sent to the judiciary committee with no other action taken. Would need to be reintroduced.

    Washington House Bill 3359: Was referred to the Judiciary with no other action taken. Would need to be reintroduced.

    Ammunitionaccountability.org: This Web site was last update on Dec. 3, 2008.

    Conclusion: The Ammunition Accountability Act (AAA) was introduced in 18 state legislatures in 2007 and 2008. It didn't pass in any form nor even make it to a vote. California's "Crime Gun Identification Act of 2007" does not involve ammunition and is not part of the AAA. While the e-mail points out that the bills are "pending," that is false. No AAA bills are currently pending from the list the AAA Web site provided.

    The AAA made little to no headway in 2007 or 2008, and there is no reason to believe it would in 2009, if it were to be reintroduced, which as of yet it hasn't. The AAA e-mail has gained traction due to fears by gun owners that it was something new, and that Obama has a part in it somehow, which he doesn't. While concerned gun owners could keep an eye out for future AAA bills, at this point, the issue is a non-issue. The e-mail was a politically motivated hoax.
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    I still like the ass who proposed that a serial number be striked onto each bullet as it exited the firearm. Apparently that loser doesn't understand the physics of what happens to a round when it reaches it's target.
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    While everyone knows I'm as pro-gun, anti-government as a person can be, this is all just bullshit. If anything, the Congress had more support for the "assault" weapons ban, then there was for anything else, and that didn't even come close to getting to the floor, and was eventually dropped by the administration. Although it may be revisited, once they get nationalization of the auto, banking, insurance, and healthcare industries out of the way.

    In a lot of ways, they're already setting themselves up severe congressional seats lost in 2010, simply over bailouts and spending......fucking with guns and ammo would be the death knell to a lot of political careers. And they know it !
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    One of my co-workers makes his own ammo in his spare time. He is sitting at about 6,000 rounds right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Summer Nights in Cabo View Post
    One of my co-workers makes his own ammo in his spare time. He is sitting at about 6,000 rounds right now.

    Damn that puts my little block of 100 9mm hollows to shame...
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    I guess I'm going to get bashed here, but what's the point of all this gun ownership? I mean, I can see one or two guns for self-defense, or if you're a collector, but what does someone need an Uzi for unless they want to do some serious shit with it? If someone breaks into your home and you waste him with an uzi or an AK-47 or whatever, you'll do more damage to your home than you will to the thief, no?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naked Wake View Post
    I guess I'm going to get bashed here, but what's the point of all this gun ownership? I mean, I can see one or two guns for self-defense, or if you're a collector, but what does someone need an Uzi for unless they want to do some serious shit with it? If someone breaks into your home and you waste him with an uzi or an AK-47 or whatever, you'll do more damage to your home than you will to the thief, no?
    That's my feeling exactly. Automatic weapons simply seem to have no purpose to me. Other stuff, fine.

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    Automatic weapons are already illegal. You can't buy an automatic weapon in the US.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naked Wake View Post
    I guess I'm going to get bashed here, but what's the point of all this gun ownership? I mean, I can see one or two guns for self-defense, or if you're a collector, but what does someone need an Uzi for unless they want to do some serious shit with it? If someone breaks into your home and you waste him with an uzi or an AK-47 or whatever, you'll do more damage to your home than you will to the thief, no?



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    over here in the good old United Kingdom Of England Land we're are already subject to strict ammo controls. at the moment i am only allowed 25 .308 Rifle rounds (also have to be fmj no soft/exposed/hollow point) and im only allowed 50 12 gauge shells (no deer slugs) and my pump action shotgun is only allowed to hold 3 (yes 3) shells.
    also we are not allowed anything like handgun ammo (5 years in prison if you are found with any) and we are subject to unannounced spot checks (anything up to 3 a year), and because we have to produce all our paperwork when we wish to buy ammo the powers that be know what we have and how often we are buying it, like i said in another thread, owning a gun over here is becoming a pain, even if you are using it for the most noble of reasons (i teach all my kids to be self sufficient if needs be) but i will never give mine up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naked Wake View Post
    I guess I'm going to get bashed here, but what's the point of all this gun ownership? I mean, I can see one or two guns for self-defense, or if you're a collector, but what does someone need an Uzi for unless they want to do some serious shit with it? If someone breaks into your home and you waste him with an uzi or an AK-47 or whatever, you'll do more damage to your home than you will to the thief, no?
    fuck it!...

    you dont need full auto to do some serious damage!!!!!!!!
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