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    Lazy Iraqi police get motivational speech by Army solider






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    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,518143,00.html

    Is the U.S. soldier starring in this popular Youtube video a tough, Patton-esque, tell-'em-like-it-is inspirational leader … or is he an unprofessional jerk?

    That’s the question FOXNews.com set out to answer when we asked the U.S. Army to help identify and locate the soldier for an interview. But the Army was less than forthcoming, so we’re looking for help finding him.

    Here’s what we do know: The video was shot at least six to eight months ago, according to Maj. Hunter Holliday of the Multinational Force Iraq Media Operations Center. It features a U.S. soldier who begins what seems like a routine training speech for a squad of Iraqi troops. But the volume, pace and sharpness of the soldier’s voice escalates considerably in what becomes a more-than-five-minute lecture -- or tirade, depending on one’s point of view -- on his many issues with the Iraqis’ non-performance.

    "You know why I'm p----- off?" he shouts at one point. "I come down here with my soldiers to try to train you, and you're trying to f------ kill Americans, you're trying to kill your fellow f------ Iraqis, 'cuz you got no f------ backbone."

    The Army may be reluctant to identify the soldier because it doesn’t like what it saw in the video -- which has already picked up more than half a million views on Youtube.

    "The Soldier's behavior is inconsistent with our Army values and does not represent the position of Coalition Forces," Holliday wrote in an e-mail to FOXNews.com. Holliday added "appropriate action" could be taken against the soldier following an investigation.

    But some former military personnel defended what they saw.

    "That's the way drill sergeants drill recruits," said retired Maj. Gen. Paul Vallely, a FOX News senior military analyst who said he understood the soldier’s frustration. "They're tough, and they do use profanity to varying degrees.”

    Help us identify the soldier, and get the story straight from him. Email talktofox@foxnews.com and we’ll report back when we get the full story.
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    OK...now THAT guy rocks fucking balls!!!!!

    I'm going to be cherry picking quotes and one-liners from this for a looong time!
    Stay out of it, dude.


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    I'm sure he'll catch shit for it....but I also don't think he cares.


    We're at the point where we're going to start pulling guys out of there, and it's these Iraqi Police that will be responsible for not letting the insurgents to regain control of their country.....some tough love may be in order.



    I'm willing to bet that once we're gone, it'll be like we were never there inside of 2 years, and they'll be begging for us to come back and restore order.
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    Very nice! When he's done with these guys he needs to hit D.C. and give that speech to the pols there. Then he can go on a tour of U.S. schools and beef up the ed system in this country. Love it!

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    That kicked balls.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Banned
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    Well if professionalism isn't working, and these fucks are going to be responsible for the security of their own country, maybe some UN-professionalism is a good thing.

    If any of these "police" complained about having their feelings hurt, I'd kick them right off the force. If their skin isn't thick enough to take a little verbal abuse during training, like ALL of our troops do, then they just aren't cut out for the tough work required in making sure that our lost soldiers didn't die in vain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lodewijk View Post
    Well if professionalism isn't working, and these fucks are going to be responsible for the security of their own country, maybe some UN-professionalism is a good thing.

    If any of these "police" complained about having their feelings hurt, I'd kick them right off the force. If their skin isn't thick enough to take a little verbal abuse during training, like ALL of our troops do, then they just aren't cut out for the tough work required in making sure that our lost soldiers didn't die in vain.
    yeah pretty much right there with you. I'm not much of a woo-hah soldier boy but yeah, if you can't take some pretty basic verbal abuse during TRAINING how the hell are you going to be tough enough to handle the real hell of war?

    As far as I'm concerned, training for battle SHOULD be abusive to a certain degree. And let's lay it all out on the table here...this guy was not "abusive" he was simply telling it like it is. Big difference.
    Stay out of it, dude.


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    I can really understand his frustration but, his early questions about loyalties highlight the insurmountable problem in Iraq, and something I believe is still misunderstood by so many.

    Iraq is not one country in the real sense of the word, and really had only stayed that way because Saddam had such power.

    Guaranteed, when western forces pull out, that country will fragment (at best) along religious and ethnic lines.

    That soldier is trying to get them to think as one, but it will not happen. It wasn't unprofessional though - he's a soldier, not a diplomat, though he's a pretty brave bloke calling a group of Arab men "women". Balls. Big. Very.
    A man could lose himself in a country like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Banned
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    I know!! He was very rude indeed! How about some "pleases" and "thank yous" amidst all the "fuck yous" and "I'll kick your asses".
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    Quote Originally Posted by graeme View Post
    I can really understand his frustration but, his early questions about loyalties highlight the insurmountable problem in Iraq, and something I believe is still misunderstood by so many.

    Iraq is not one country in the real sense of the word, and really had only stayed that way because Saddam had such power.

    Guaranteed, when western forces pull out, that country will fragment (at best) along religious and ethnic lines.


    That soldier is trying to get them to think as one, but it will not happen. It wasn't unprofessional though - he's a soldier, not a diplomat, though he's a pretty brave bloke calling a group of Arab men "women". Balls. Big. Very.
    yep. and it breaking apart isn't necessarily a bad thing...i see no real reason to try and force these people to get along and maintain a unified government. let them break off.
    Stay out of it, dude.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lodewijk View Post
    I'm willing to bet that once we're gone, it'll be like we were never there inside of 2 years
    You're quite the optimist.

    My money's on two months.
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    I got worse ass chewings than that during high school football practices. My mindset after a good ass chewing was to go out and play harder/smarter and to not make the mistakes I had made that got me the ass chewing in the first place.

    I would have hated to be the translator though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seenbad View Post
    That kicked balls.
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    Truth...

    But it is a bit simplistic for him to call out a platoon (or whatever) of police when the Shiite Iraqi gov't based on militias has continually used US infantry, artillery, armor, and air power as a means to dictate to the Sunnis and avoid any serious deal or national reconciliation...

    This should be US generals and politicians calling out the Shiite gov't...and it should have happened about four years ago...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Banned
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    why don't you go show him how to do it. I'm guessing he'd love to come home for some time with the family while you take a turn at doing the job...in a very sensible manner, one that is a far cry from the nonsense of the video, and will obviously be much more effective...being that you have such intimate knowledge of iraqi culture, military training and an ability to teach in such an environment. Hell, anything to wrap our entanglement out there! I'm sure we can take up a collection from the links and get you a plane ticket!
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