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    Quote Originally Posted by FORD View Post
    Though I will grudgingly admit to owning Chicago 17 and even the Cetera-less 19, the most honest fact about Chicago was said by Robert Lamm (only remaining non horn playing member) on "Behind the Music"....

    "When Terry Kath was no longer with us, we were no longer Chicago".

    Other than the horns, and Cetera's voice (and his clone who sings just like him later on) there was nothing the rock band of 1968-1977 had in common with the 80's cheese factory.

    When Jimi Hendrix calls your guitarist "better than me", that is a compliment. Nobody's ever going to say that about the studio hacks who played on the 80's "Cheesecago" albums.

    Terry Kath was extremely underrated as a guitarist and songwriter.
    I hate to admit it, but I just discovered Terry Kath for the first time tonight thanks to Wikipedia and Youtube. This guy was great as stated above. Reminds me of Stevie Ray Vaughn.

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    Thanks SNIC, wow, saw this band in 1976 at Madison Square Garden, my first concert and one of the best shows I've ever seen. Chicago was the Headliner and played for almost 3 hours. Terry Kath could play.

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    Man, talk about a band that did one hell of a turnaround between the 70's and 80's! Admittedly, I'm only a casual fan of Chicago, but some of the vile crap they came out with in the 80's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VanHalenRules View Post
    Man, talk about a band that did one hell of a turnaround between the 70's and 80's! Admittedly, I'm only a casual fan of Chicago, but some of the vile crap they came out with in the 80's.
    Yep, the sugar coated stuff was fairly impossible to swallow. Particularly if you were a fan during the early seventies.

    Everyone forgets that when this group started, they were as fervent with regard to political activism as the CLASH. At times, the finger pointing became just as hard to take as the Pete Cetera (and later equally awful Cetera-less) ballads of the eighties. Yet as the band progressed, the songs became more tuneful and the hard edged political stuff was replaced with warmth and humor towards the subject.

    Another aspect of the band people frequently do not realize is the group was essentially a power trio with a horn section. Just listen to Cetera's bass lines, which are as complicated and busy as anything Jack Bruce or Chris Squire ever came up with. And Terry Kath not only was an extremely expressive guitarist (check out his nearly 7 minute Hendrix-like solo "Free Form Guitar" on the first album), he was also blessed with a wonderfully soulful singing voice. The group was popular with middle school and high school band students, as the horn charts were rather easy to play along with, despite featuring at times somewhat complicated arrangements.

    Here is an example of the band's more refined political tunes. The tune is called "Dialogue PTs I & II" from Chicago V. The track details a conversation between two college students, one politically astute and concerened for the issues while the other is a stoned, blissfully unaware and carefree hippy.



    You could spend hours looking for and posting terrific tunes from this band's rich catalogue, yet I'll quit for now with this one. This is one of the band's cooler tracks from their second album. It was edited from a long suite called "Ballet for a Girl in Buchannon" for release as a single. From July 21, 1970 at Tanglewood in Lenox, MA.

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    That's some pretty damn good stuff there, chef. It's remarkably odd when the wife mentions Chicago and I think of the stuff you heard on radio back in the 70's and she thinks of the shlock that came out in the Cetera driven era. Then again, this is the same woman who thought primarily of Hagar as the lead singer for VH.
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    Chicago had some good hits in the '70s that I still enjoy hearing. I mentioned in the Springsteen thread how in the fall/winter of '75 the station I was listening to at the time did one of those elimination tournaments where I believe it eventually came down to "Born To Run" vs. "Color My World" and I believe "Color My World" won. Thing is, still hear "Born To Run" often enough, but I can't recall when was the last time I ever heard "Color My World". You'd think that would still get spun on classic rock radio, but I guess they don't have room for it in their 50 song play list!

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    I rather like Chicago, the 70's Chicago not the cheesy 80's Chicago. Some of their tunes are classic.
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    Closest Chicago came to getting back to their roots was that "Get Away" thing they they tack onto the end of "Hard to Say I'm Sorry."
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    Quote Originally Posted by smithjc View Post
    I rather like Chicago, the 70's Chicago not the cheesy 80's Chicago. Some of their tunes are classic.
    I gotta agree with you on the 80's stuff being cheesy, but the video for "Stay the Night" goes into my top 10 videos of all time. Not the song...just the video.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Summer Nights in Cabo View Post
    I hate to admit it, but I just discovered Terry Kath for the first time tonight thanks to Wikipedia and Youtube. This guy was great as stated above. Reminds me of Stevie Ray Vaughn.
    You are dead on, SNIC: that cat could blow! He tears it up in that video.

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    Just returned from the Chicago/Earth, Wind, & Fire concert. Wow! What a great show. The night started with both groups on stage then EW&F going solo first, Chicago after them, and then finished with both groups on stage again.

    EW&F has so much energy up there, and Chicago mixes it up with them. It was cool hearing them play each others songs together. My only complaint was not having Peter Cetera there. They have guys trying to sing the songs as best they can, but still not the same without PC.

    If any of you have been on the fence about going to this show, GO! You will not be disappointed.

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