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    Default Latest NWO Conspiracy Video!

    I've seen stuff by this guy before. This is a new feature length version stating their belief that Obama is a puppet and we are still on the path of destruction caused by the wealthy elite. So, not being an expert on this stuff, I'd love to hear the arguments for and against their claims.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stilleddiesangel View Post
    I've seen stuff by this guy before. This is a new feature length version stating their belief that Obama is a puppet and we are still on the path of destruction caused by the wealthy elite. So, not being an expert on this stuff, I'd love to hear the arguments for and against their claims.

    I watched about 15 minutes of it. So who exactly is the group supposedly pulling the strings? Who is the shadowy group identified as the wealthy elite?

    This seems eerily like fascist propaganda against the Jews during the 1930s and 40s. Heck, some still believe that the Jews are still behind the scenes pulling the strings...

    Personally, I think this is a fine piece of propaganda. I thinks its also a bunch of crap.
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    The major claims came after the first 15 minutes. It's interesting to watch. Whether it's pure propaganda or some of the stuff has basis in reality I'm still pondering on. 1:12:00 is interesting, discussing how a threat of martial law would be brought in if the banker bail out bill wasnt passed.
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    Can't see the video here but I assume it's the "Obama deception", by Alex Jones.

    If so, pretty much treading old ground but still an interesting watch. Alex jones was talking about this stuff years ago and it all seems to be unfolding before our very eyes. I used to think he was funny and probably mentally ill. Whilst I still think he is a bit ill, he does seem to be able to pinpoint what is coming with quite astonishing accuracy.

    The latest stuff on FEMA camps and huge new cemeteries (one near Phoenix) is all getting pretty scary. Youtube those if you want to see next year today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stilleddiesangel View Post
    The major claims came after the first 15 minutes. It's interesting to watch. Whether it's pure propaganda or some of the stuff has basis in reality I'm still pondering on. 1:12:00 is interesting, discussing how a threat of martial law would be brought in if the banker bail out bill wasnt passed.
    This was confirmed by a lot of congress to be true. In fact, everything in this movie is true, though of course, a lot is down to interpretation of motive.

    The point is with this guy, he makes some wild claims, often aiming at individuals, but he never gets sued for libel, defamation of character or anything else. So many try to discredit him and that's about as close as it gets to court.

    Here's an example of something I thought must be bullshit. A report from Missouri state listed a guide of how to spot potential terrorists. Included in their list was supporters of Ron Paul and anyone with a Ron paul bumper sticker. I thought that this must be absolute rubbish. Two days later, Ron Paul and two other libertarians have seen the report and wrote to the governor of Missouri advising him that if he didn't pull the report, that they would take him to court.

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    Yes Graeme, it's that one. I wasn't aware of a lot of this stuff, like the the no flylist and the mother who couldnt hug her 5 year old son when they were stopped from flying cos he has the name of someone on this list aand was considered a security risk, of possible compulsary 3 month conscription of 18-24 year olds, of the free-speech via internet and radio/tv being curtailed.

    I'm no expert of politics, but I do find some of this stuff very alarming. The main thing being, that a lot of people we consider to be cooks or idiots because of the outrageous claims they make, have turned out to be right.
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    Alright, a little slow for the 2 hour clip to load here but kneejerk reaction
    is, of course the "wealthy elite" are pulling the strings. Here's a shock, the
    banking institutions are fucking everyone. But no one seems to get that mad
    as they bend us over a barrel. Not even as mad as France. That O is in the
    pocket would/should be no surprise, but I was profoundly disappointed when
    he continued the bailout policies initiated buy the Bush/Paulson cadre.

    I can see the bias here in the edits of the first 30 seconds, but I'm sure there's
    some interesting shit in there somewheres. But at least O did repeal Bush's
    Stem Cell research ban, so you know, one small victory or something.

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    Although not not believing all of the claims here, what does concern me is this..

    The ordinary good citizens of 1930-40's Germany were duped into believing a shit load of bullshit propaganda from a charismatic leader who talked of a better life for the average German and those average citizens even denied the existance of the death camps right up to the point they were forced to go and look. Their government had hidden from the normal, ordinary people of Germany, people like me and you, the horrible truth. Governements lie for their own agendas.

    If someone was trying to warn us of the horrors of the Third Reich today.. if instead of it being real history with absolute proof, would we believe such a horrific outrageous thing could happen under our noses? Or would we simply call them conspiracy cranks and dismiss them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by stilleddiesangel View Post
    If someone was trying to warn us of the horrors of the Third Reich today.. if instead of it being real history with absolute proof, would we believe such a horrific outrageous thing could happen under our noses? Or would we simply call them conspiracy cranks and dismiss them?
    I'd like to think that something of that nature would be much, much more difficult to conceal in these times of the Internet and instant news updates. I mean, YouTube has their camera crews everywhere!

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    Alex Jones is a nutcase.

    If I ever meet him in person I'm going to hurt him. He is one of those shitball 9/11 "Truther" dickheads.

    The FEMA deathcamp bullshit has been around since 1995, when abandoned military bases were supposed to be used. I had a well meaning guy tell me with a straight face that Fort Ord was to be used as a consentration camp for the NWO. I'm still waiting.

    Why would a bunch of wealthy Europeans run a black guy for President? If their goal was to take over the White House then why such a long shot? If McCain picks someone else as VP then he wins, so what happens to the conspiracy then?

    Also, the US is dragging the rest of the world down with it as it's economy implodes. This is causing instability in other parts of the world and this can cost these rich Europeans control of some vital areas.

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    Good point.. but building on that, what if the videos Graeme mentioned are the future truth and we look and dismiss them, simply not believing it could actually happen.





    Are we that entrenched in our own safe little bubbles that we miss warning signs or simply refuse to believe them. I'm sure some of the people of Germany had clues to what was happening, but it was simply so far beyond their scope of reality, of their own lives, that they turned the other way not believing that their own government could do such despicable things. How much of the truth do we ignore or dismiss because we find it distasteful or simply too fantastical to accept?
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    The ordinary good citizens of 1930-40's Germany were duped into believing a shit load of bullshit propaganda from a charismatic leader who talked of a better life for the average German and those average citizens even denied the existance of the death camps right up to the point they were forced to go and look. Their government had hidden from the normal, ordinary people of Germany, people like me and you, the horrible truth.
    Technically, before they invaded Poland, the Third Reich DID give the German people a better life. The Nazis rose to power because of the wide spread anti semitism of Germany and Europe as a whole. It wasn't so much that the Nazis lied as much as the German people DID NOT CARE what happened to the Jews. In Poland, France, Hungary, and Russian the SS didn't have to break a sweat rounding the Jews up because the locals were happy to turn them in. In a few cases in Poland, the local towns people rounded up the Jews into the synagogue and burned them alive; much to the ammusement of the SS.

    That today is a non-agressive nation is a testiment to their shame. Whatever the citizens said they knew, in the end they knew the ultimate truth. They knew they sold their souls to the devil and it has broken the German spirit. Abortion is outlawed today in what otherwise is a progressive and socialist country. This is an echo of it's self loathing as it sees Dr Mengele when it sees abortion.

    I have a whole thread in the premium section about Obama that I started last year as he stepped into front-runner status. I thought he was an empty shirt at best and at worst: A black George Bush. However, I am not going to allow my dislike of the President to lead me off to the funny farm like those who suffer from Bush Derangement Syndrom. I will make my arguements on a case by case basis based upon things that the President has actually said and done. That should be more than enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by graeme View Post
    The point is with this guy, he makes some wild claims, often aiming at individuals, but he never gets sued for libel, defamation of character or anything else. So many try to discredit him and that's about as close as it gets to court.

    Are you familiar with how libel and slander actually pertain to not only elected/public officials, but also public figures? There is no logical link between "Well he hasn't been sued in court" to "so he MUST be right!!!" I really think people should brush up on their constitutional law before jumping to conclusions like that.


    Most people who buy into that kind of stuff are extremely paranoid who start with a conclusion, then work backwards to their thesis.

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    Ax, without taking into account your dislike of this guy, have you seen this video and these points are they saying that is truth or not truth? Graeme says it's all true but down to interpretation of motive. I dont know what to believe but I do know that I do not want to be one of those who sits back and simply accepts what our respective governments tell us.

    There are CIA people coming out of the woodwork spouting all kinds of stuff that would not be deemed to be possible. And in times of crisis, we see that human beings are very very selfish and think only of themselves. Brother turns against brother and friend against friend. You think of your own survival first.
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    I actually burned this movie onto DVD today. Ripped it from YT. Can't wait to watch it.

    I don't subscribe to everything Alex Jones says but some of the topics he discusses are intriguing.
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