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    Default Ray Danniels Update

    Not the kind of update people here are dying to get, but still... he was honored at an industry dinner.

    From Rushisaband.com:

    This past Wednesday evening Rush manager Ray Danniels was the recipient of the 3rd annual Music Managers Forum Canada (MMF Canada) Honour Roll Award. Music industry insider Bob Lefsetz was at the ceremony (as was Geddy Lee) and wrote the following report in his Lefsetz Letter blog:

    ... We eventually ended up at the Manager's Forum dinner honoring Ray Danniels, who guides the career of Rush. They say Rush gets no respect, that the mainstream press doesn't cover the threesome and it's not in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. IT DOESN'T MATTER! I get more e-mail about Rush than almost any other act. People telling me about their exploits, how Neil Peart is the best drummer in the world. It's all about fans, and Rush has them. And Geddy was there, about seven feet away. Do you still get a rush when you're in the vicinity of rock stars? I do. With his granny glasses, wisp of hair on his chin and that seen it all, but humorous expression, it was unmistakably the guy who knows today's Tom Sawyer. Cool!
    And Ray financed the act's first album, which got picked up by WMMS in Cleveland. And then the band broke.
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    I say we throw the guy a parade, and shower him from the rooftops with a few tons of ticker-tape.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chefcraig View Post
    I say we throw the guy a parade, and shower him from the rooftops with a few tons of ticker-tape.

    In bundles.
    Amen, brotha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Dreamer View Post
    Not the kind of update people here are dying to get, but still... he was honored at an industry dinner.
    AAAAHHHH.....I was hopin' for an obituary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ View Post
    AAAAHHHH.....I was hopin' for an obituary.
    Amen. I hate Rush, but people always get confused when I tell them I hate their manager more than anyone else in the music industry. Think Ray ever lurks? I doubt it, but just in case, thanks for ruining the greatest band on the planet you manipulative piece of shit.

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    You guys do realize that Ed and Al are to blame for what became of the band, correct?

    Ray didn't fire Sam.

    Ray didn't fire Mike.

    Ray didn't hire a sixteen year old.

    Ray didn't remove Mike from the album covers.

    Ray wasn't an alcoholic.

    Ray wasn't a drug addict.

    Yes, from all accounts he wasn't a good manager, but laying this mess of a band all at his feet is missplaced anger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chefcraig View Post
    I say we throw the guy a parade, and shower him from the rooftops with a few tons of ticker-tape.

    In bundles.
    I'm in!!!! F.O.R.D.!!!!!

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    Ray Danniels was decisive in Rush's success. Nothing can eclipse that.

    I think he was just a bad fit for VH.

    I don't think he ever was the devil some make him out to be. At the time of all the "F.O.R.D." hoopla, the truth is that most ppl wanted to blame him instead of EVH. Even Sammy was trying to protect Ed by blaming it all on RD. It was just easier. Since 1996, events have modified our perception of the characters involved and to blame it all on Ray Danniels is unwarranted. How come no other band is complaining about him? Isn't this a bit strange.

    The most dysfunctional ppl in VH were always the band members, not the management.
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    I still believe that Ray was more to blame than anybody named 'Van Halen'. The passing of Ed Leffler was the beginning of the downfall IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
    You guys do realize that Ed and Al are to blame for what became of the band, correct?

    Ray didn't fire Sam.

    Ray didn't fire Mike.

    Ray didn't hire a sixteen year old.

    Ray didn't remove Mike from the album covers.

    Ray wasn't an alcoholic.

    Ray wasn't a drug addict.

    Yes, from all accounts he wasn't a good manager, but laying this mess of a band all at his feet is missplaced anger.
    How did Ed Leffler manage to hold it together then? Your points are all true, but nobody can deny the rift that Ray helped facilitate between the band members.

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    so educate me...what did Ray Daniels do?

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    Problem is Rush doesn't ask for the Limelight(no pun intended) and never was one on the same plain of one of the biggest bands in the world like VH, that fucker Daniels didn't know how to handle a band of VH stature and help ruin one of the biggest bands in the world(notice I said help cause Eddie had a hand in it as well).
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    Quote Originally Posted by broken9500 View Post
    so educate me...what did Ray Daniels do?
    Got an hour or so?

    http://www.vhlinks.com/vbforums/sam-...4.html?t=44704

    Dave Roth offers some fairly unflattering commentary on Daniels as well in his Crazy From The Heat book, as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Dreamer View Post
    How come no other band is complaining about him? Isn't this a bit strange.
    I think that is the most important thing to remember here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave's Dreidel View Post
    You guys do realize that Ed and Al are to blame for what became of the band, correct?

    Ray didn't fire Sam.

    Ray didn't fire Mike.

    Ray didn't hire a sixteen year old.

    Ray didn't remove Mike from the album covers.

    Ray wasn't an alcoholic.

    Ray wasn't a drug addict.

    Yes, from all accounts he wasn't a good manager, but laying this mess of a band all at his feet is missplaced anger.
    Exactly. I'm sure Daniels had a part in fucking up the band, but some people want to lay way too much blame on hime. In the end, Ed and Al had the final say. My Magic Eight Ball makes better decisions than those two clowns...
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