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    Quote Originally Posted by RRvh1 View Post
    I just keep recalling the EVH/LL Cool J. interview...
    "He got accused of a lot of things, but was just a sweet guy who wanted to remain a kid, himself..." - EVH (paraphrased).
    Yeah, but would Ed of let Jackson babysit Wolfgang??? Doubt it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PrideofPasadena View Post
    Well, obviously he was fucked up. That doesn't change the fact he was super talented.

    OJ is a scumbug too, but he's one the best running backs ever. No changing that.

    Adolf Hitler was apparently very talented with a paint brush too, but that doesn't excuse him from being the world biggest cunt...

    Fuck MJ... Piece a shit... OJ too
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    GENE SIMMONS ON MICHAEL JACKSON: “HE MOLESTED THOSE KIDS”

    Aug 20, 2016 




    Gene Simmons spoke to Team Rock about his relationship with Michael Jackson, and he is still standing by his previous claims that MJ was definitely molesting little boys!


    The KISS frontman says he knew some of the musicians who toured with MJ…and one musician in particular quit a tour with the King of Pop after seeing little boys coming out of his hotel rooms.

    He also brought up MJ’s travel agent who would fly boys in from Brazil.

    “And then you factor in that his travel agent was put on the stand and in court said that she was authorized to fly to Brazil and bring boys back to America for him… Well, you know, where there’s smoke there’s fire. There’s no question in my mind he molested those kids. Not a doubt.” – Gene Simmons


    Gene also questioned MJ’s sexuality…saying he never met one female who admitted to having sex with the late singer, and the only people associated with MJ were little boys.

    “And incidentally, there’s never been a single female of any age that I’ve ever known about who has ever made a claim that she has had a physical relationship with Michael, ever. In fact, while he was alive, I never heard about mature men ever making that claim either – and believe me, you can’t keep it a secret. If you’re a celebrity, somebody somewhere will say, “Oh yeah, I shagged him.” – Gene Simmons





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    Not that I care but, didn't Elvis' kid say there were married in every way, hinting that they slept together? And Brooke Sheilds too? If memory serves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutchie5150 View Post
    Adolf Hitler was apparently very talented with a paint brush too, but that doesn't excuse him from being the world biggest cunt...

    Fuck MJ... Piece a shit... OJ too
    Dutchie5150 and Gene Simmons were right. Another new Jackson documentary just came out. Even comes with a graphic materials warning. Account of 2 more kids (now adults).

    https://www.rollingstone.com/movies/...ndance-784801/
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    Quote Originally Posted by bklynboy68 View Post
    GENE SIMMONS ON MICHAEL JACKSON: “HE MOLESTED THOSE KIDS”

    Aug 20, 2016 




    Gene Simmons spoke to Team Rock about his relationship with Michael Jackson, and he is still standing by his previous claims that MJ was definitely molesting little boys!


    The KISS frontman says he knew some of the musicians who toured with MJ…and one musician in particular quit a tour with the King of Pop after seeing little boys coming out of his hotel rooms.

    He also brought up MJ’s travel agent who would fly boys in from Brazil.

    “And then you factor in that his travel agent was put on the stand and in court said that she was authorized to fly to Brazil and bring boys back to America for him… Well, you know, where there’s smoke there’s fire. There’s no question in my mind he molested those kids. Not a doubt.” – Gene Simmons


    Gene also questioned MJ’s sexuality…saying he never met one female who admitted to having sex with the late singer, and the only people associated with MJ were little boys.

    “And incidentally, there’s never been a single female of any age that I’ve ever known about who has ever made a claim that she has had a physical relationship with Michael, ever. In fact, while he was alive, I never heard about mature men ever making that claim either – and believe me, you can’t keep it a secret. If you’re a celebrity, somebody somewhere will say, “Oh yeah, I shagged him.” – Gene Simmons





    http://hollywoodstreetking.com/gene-...d-molestation/
    This is a takedown of Michael Jackson!

    I can't forget that...I don't know why.

    Gene says where there's smoke there's fire...wasn't there a little investigation of a computer at Gene's house, too? Sniff sniff...smell that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by atomicpunk5151 View Post
    Dutchie5150 and Gene Simmons were was right. Another new Jackson documentary just came out. Even comes with a graphic materials warning. Account of 2 more kids (now adults).

    https://www.rollingstone.com/movies/...ndance-784801/
    That documentary is crazy. Makes MJ out to be the most calculated child predator in history. If the accusations are 100% correct, I can’t believe that both of their mothers were that blind. Believe me, I’m not taking up for MJ in the slightest.

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    Both accusers are on re ord stating the opposite of their current stories. There is no other side this was a doc of their story not an entire doc on MJ.
    Also their stories have claims in it that would be physically impossible if MJ medical records testified to by his doctor and his wife stated were true.

    The guy clearly was disturbed but without challenging the story or any attempt to reconcile that no matter how graphic the story it really is not a definitive conclusion just a very graphic story. Plus the presentation of being calculated is in opposition to usual pedophiles who have impulse control issues. Not making a pro MJ case either but basic discrepancy are never addressed so graphic and conclusive are indeed different

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darrin Stephens View Post
    The guy clearly was disturbed but without challenging the story or any attempt to reconcile that no matter how graphic the story it really is not a definitive conclusion just a very graphic story.
    I don’t recall the documentary mentioning the 2.2 billion dollar lawsuit that Robson filed against his estate several years ago? I’m not making a case for or against but that should’ve been included in the documentary as well.

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    I have no idea what Jackson did or didn't do, but the main accuser in the new doc only changed his story after having a mental breakdown, losing his career, wife, and all his money. It was at that point he suddenly started claiming he was molested, and shopped a book to all publishers. All turned it down.

    Once he filed his lawsuit, the other guy joined in saying he didn't remember he was molested until he heard about the lawsuit. Apparently, he also survived a ruthless cross-examination when he testified in Jackson's defense--when he was under no obligation to do so--with flying colors.

    From what I understand, the new documentary offers nothing new other than these two guys' changed claims, and no new, corroborating evidence.

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    Just the shit grabbed from his house from a warrant back during the trials was enough to show he was at a bare minimum messed up in the head with an unhealthy attraction for young boys.

    Whether he acted on any of it, we will probably never know, but I do know the guy was a whack job.
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    There's no "good" human wise in almost any scenario. He was a pedophile, no not possible as he chemically castrated age 12 by his father and was just a completely fucked up mess of a human with people trying to profit off his corpse. There is just no good here just different genres of horror.

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    Yeah, I didn't watch it. They're changing the story now. Didn't hear about any new evidence coming out.
    Revisiting it seemed pointless. Maybe he did, maybe he didn't....who knows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darrin Stephens View Post
    He was a pedophile, no not possible as he chemically castrated age 12 by his father
    Eh?? What??? Why??? Proof??


    As for did he or didn't he mess with little boys, we may never know for sure but one thing no one does, when in their 20s, 30s & 50s, is hang around with little boys, invite them into your bedroom and then (innocently) sleep with them. You just don't do it and you intrinsically know it's wrong. That even if you're innocent, it can look bad to others and - especially in a celebrity's case - wreck your career.

    The notion that MJ was just a big kid at heart is also bogus. The guy was sharp, astute and switched on. He was no child in a man's body.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlofeldsCat View Post
    Eh?? What??? Why??? Proof??


    As for did he or didn't he mess with little boys, we may never know for sure but one thing no one does, when in their 20s, 30s & 50s, is hang around with little boys, invite them into your bedroom and then (innocently) sleep with them. You just don't do it and you intrinsically know it's wrong. That even if you're innocent, it can look bad to others and - especially in a celebrity's case - wreck your career.

    The notion that MJ was just a big kid at heart is also bogus. The guy was sharp, astute and switched on. He was no child in a man's body.
    The claim first made by Rowe who he was legally married in the context of of course they never had sex cause the could not. It was largely a tabloid thing. Then decade later when his doctor was arrested it was indeed in his medical files that age 12 he was and the doctor also testified to it while under oath. It did not help the doctors case and records dated showed it in his medical history going back for awhile. The hormonal irregularity was also cited in autopsy as non contributory to his COD. The claim was not the only truly bizarre one made by several of his kids against Joe Jackson

    If true the story in the doc would be physically impossible. Either way it is bad. He and the people around him all look bad. Not any angle.of positive humanity regardless of how it actually was. Plus not sure innocent is word I would use even if he did not do as accused. With reason or not he was clearly severely disturbed. My point was that to be a doc or should at least of asked that question. I am not taking a it is or is not position.

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