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    Somebody round here turned me on to "The Lefsetz Letter".
    It's a blog from Lefsetz that you can subscribe to free of charge, and he's some kind of music industry insider,his columns are usually quite interesting.

    Anyhow, i had to pass on his headline of the day, from some website:

    "Live Nation to aquire Ticketmaster for $2.5 billion, plus $700 million in convenience charges."


    Can anyone tell me more about who Bob Lefsetz is?
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    He was a lawyer turned consultant (whatever that is) in the music business for a while. He started blogging a few years back as a sideline, yet I'll be damned if I know anything else about the guy.
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    Default Bob Lefsetz - Planned Parenthood

    I know there's a thread in here regarding Bob Lefsetz, but I'm not having any luck finding it.

    I thought his blog from Saturday was worth reposting:



    Planned Parenthood


    Why is it the same knee-jerk Republicans freaking out about ISIS are fostering terrorism in the homeland? Recruiting and influencing loonies to do their dirty work to eliminate the evil scourge known as abortion? Imposing their beliefs upon a populace that may not agree, in a nation founded upon religious freedom, never mind personal liberty?

    Welcome to 2015, wherein people in the hinterlands are fearful of Islamic terrorists, willing to give up personal freedoms to make themselves feel safe, while their brethren are running around with weapons terrorizing the rest of the populace.

    I don't get it. I understand that not everyone agrees on everything. That not everyone approves of Obama's efforts, never mind the right wing's systematic decimation of the safety net. But we're a nation of laws, where people vote and we adhere to the results. Otherwise there'd be chaos.

    There's chaos in the streets right now. And the problem isn't college students agitating against microaggressions, or the underprivileged demanding equal rights, but the so-called law and order party, which under the rubric of creating a safer America is making most citizens feel anything but.

    Words have consequences. And the media has influence. And they're both trumped by corporations, who do what's right for themselves, not the country. Did you read the recent "Washington Post" story about companies' influence upon the public's belief in climate change? Turns out, by funding studies, energy producers muddied the water, they made people believe climate change wasn't real. Just read "Why are so many Americans skeptical about climate change? A study offers a surprising answer." for edification: http://wapo.st/1jh0v6c

    And now we've got fanatical anti-abortion zealots demonizing Planned Parenthood, creating false videos, all in the name of eradicating abortion, which is the law of the land, even though it's nearly impossible to get one in many red states. Locations are few, and the underclass is poor. And doctors and patients are both afraid of being shot.

    But taking the law into your own hands is a feature of the west...

    Back in the 1800s. We've progressed. Or maybe we haven't. What if we got all those shooters to give up their mobile phones and videogame consoles. Then they might realize that times are different.

    And you might say that the shooters are mentally ill. I'd say that ten percent of the public is crazy and we don't know who they are, but by sending messages of terrorism we are incentivizing them to take action, to become famous, to become martyrs for the cause.

    I don't stop hearing the Republicans saying that Obama isn't tough on ISIS, that he isn't forceful enough, that Muslims are evil, and our national way of life must be preserved.

    Then I see these same people under the banner of Christianity inciting disorder in our communities, insisting the rest of us must adhere to their beliefs. Sure, the Middle East is destabilized, sure, it's scary. But does that mean we have to sacrifice all our personal freedoms here at home, does that mean we can substitute the fear of religious rule by one faith for the domination of another? There's a supposed war on Christmas, which is like saying the NBA is challenged by tiddlywinks. The minions incited by the blowhards on Fox News are creating unrest which results in shootings but the meek and unarmed are the true problem?

    That's right, this is a right wing problem, a Republican problem. You don't see lefties shooting up churches and you don't see Democrats insisting that everyone smoke dope. The white population is declining in influence and through a weird alliance of rich and poor, we've destabilized our entire nation while these same people keep protesting their innocence and deflecting attention upon ISIS and other bogeymen.

    ISIS is real. I'd be lying if I said I was not afraid.

    But I'm more afraid of some Bible-toting idiot worried his tax money is being used to fund sin deciding to shoot up my neighborhood in an effort to restore order.

    A shooter descended upon my neighborhood a couple of years back, and when the sirens go off and the police cars scream and you've got no idea what's happening you realize not only can it happen here, it does.

    I did not get shot.

    But innocent students at Santa Monica College did. Those who were just going about their business, trying to improve their lives, bothering nobody in the process.

    Your right to bear arms is no threat to a hacker who can threaten the government with the click of a mouse. And the more you try to protect yourself with arms the more you destabilize our entire community.

    We all are responsible for what happened in Colorado. Because we refused to have not only effective gun control, we've been fanning the flames of discontent for decades, polarizing those in this great nation of ours, when the truth is we're really more together than apart.

    Donald Trump has no chance of becoming President.

    But the media follows him because he sells advertising.

    Irresponsibility is rampant. How do we expect people to do the right thing when corporations are avoiding taxes and everyone believes they have the right to have things go their way all the time?

    Compromise and understanding, not stand your ground with your hands covering your ears.

    But that's not what happens in Congress.

    And that's not what's happening in the streets.

    We should be ashamed of ourselves. We destabilized an entire region to impose our way of life on others.

    Turns out our way of life is riddled with problems, a good hard look in the mirror is necessary. We need to lay down arms and respect the legal wishes of others.

    In a nation where everybody believes he can become a star, and is entitled to untold riches, where religious martyrs are lionized, we've got a lot of looking at ourselves to do. _ Bob Lefsetz
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    What a weird, rambling thought.

    So based on his conclusions, mass shootings are only done by right wing Christians--despite the enormous evidence to the contrary.

    He also thinks someone that is Pro-Life is more dangerous to him than ISIS.

    What a dolt. He may be a mogul in the music industry (or used to be), but the guy can't think critically when it comes to politics or world affairs.
    CNN may think my opinion matters, but you shouldn't.

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    I always find it interesting that the right always resorts to name calling when they disagree with a point of view. I read Bob's column often, and don't always agree with him but he's far from being a dolt (whatever that is)
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    Now you have video of the big dude with the red hat who was crying about Starbucks cups the other day telling people to go after planned Parenthood workers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bsbll4 View Post
    What a weird, rambling thought.

    So based on his conclusions, mass shootings are only done by right wing Christians--despite the enormous evidence to the contrary.

    He also thinks someone that is Pro-Life is more dangerous to him than ISIS.

    What a dolt. He may be a mogul in the music industry (or used to be), but the guy can't think critically when it comes to politics or world affairs.
    The guy doesn't really have his research down, does he?
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    For reference:

    Dolt - noun; a stupid person



    He's a dolt because he obviously didn't do any research to come up with his theories.

    1) The guy that shot up the Planned Parenthood was not a Republican and wasn't affiliated with any pro-life movement. On top of that, we don't even know his motivation at this point. There are still reports that it started at a bank and ended up there. For all we know at this point, it was totally unrelated to any larger political point. Considering the attacks he made on police officers, maybe he was also motivated by the Hands Up Don't Shoot narrative? The point is we have no idea, so jumping to conclusions makes him look like a dolt.

    2) Most mass shootings are not committed by right wingers. Nidal Hassan (Ft. Hood), James Holmes (CO movie theatre), Seung-Hui Cho (VT), Aaron Alexis (naval yard) and Adam Lanza (Sandy Hook) were not Republicans, nor were their aims to further a Republican or otherwise right-wing cause. Those are just the ones that come to mind because they were the most publicized.

    3) When we consider the body count tallied by Islamic terrorists in the US in the last 20 years to the count tallied by far-right religious nutbags (see I can name call them, too), Radical Islam is by far a greater risk to his person. Therefore, his greater fear of the right is unfounded.


    Basically, his entire rant was propped up on false assumptions which makes the entire thing pointless. Therefore, he's a dolt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hain23x View Post
    Now you have video of the big dude with the red hat who was crying about Starbucks cups the other day telling people to go after planned Parenthood workers.

    He's a moron. Do you see any Republican candidates racing to get behind these far-right nutbags pining for physical harm to political opponents? I don't think so.

    We also have Black Lives Matter protestors shouting: "Pigs in a blanket, fry em like bacon." Meanwhile, the Democrat party can't help itself from standing behind these protesters and doing everything it can to get their vote. They go so far as to apologize for saying "All Lives Matter."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duke View Post
    Somebody round here turned me on to "The Lefsetz Letter".
    It's a blog from Lefsetz that you can subscribe to free of charge, and he's some kind of music industry insider,his columns are usually quite interesting.

    Anyhow, i had to pass on his headline of the day, from some website:

    "Live Nation to aquire Ticketmaster for $2.5 billion, plus $700 million in convenience charges."

    Can anyone tell me more about who Bob Lefsetz is?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bsbll4 View Post
    He's a moron. Do you see any Republican candidates racing to get behind these far-right nutbags pining for physical harm to political opponents? I don't think so.

    We also have Black Lives Matter protestors shouting: "Pigs in a blanket, fry em like bacon." Meanwhile, the Democrat party can't help itself from standing behind these protesters and doing everything it can to get their vote. They go so far as to apologize for saying "All Lives Matter."
    They sat and watched them burn down Baltimore and destroy St. Louis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bklynboy68 View Post
    They sat and watched them burn down Baltimore and destroy St. Louis.
    Ferguson. St. Louis was destroyed by Democrats a long time ago

    The Democrats have run St. Louis since Harry Truman was President.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bsbll4 View Post
    Ferguson. St. Louis was destroyed by Democrats a long time ago

    The Democrats have run St. Louis since Harry Truman was President.

    Yep. This jackass has had a long disgusting run hasn't he?





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    Quote Originally Posted by Duke View Post
    I know there's a thread in here regarding Bob Lefsetz, but I'm not having any luck finding it.

    I thought his blog from Saturday was worth reposting:



    Planned Parenthood


    Why is it the same knee-jerk Republicans freaking out about ISIS are fostering terrorism in the homeland? Recruiting and influencing loonies to do their dirty work to eliminate the evil scourge known as abortion? Imposing their beliefs upon a populace that may not agree, in a nation founded upon religious freedom, never mind personal liberty?

    Welcome to 2015, wherein people in the hinterlands are fearful of Islamic terrorists, willing to give up personal freedoms to make themselves feel safe, while their brethren are running around with weapons terrorizing the rest of the populace.

    I don't get it. I understand that not everyone agrees on everything. That not everyone approves of Obama's efforts, never mind the right wing's systematic decimation of the safety net. But we're a nation of laws, where people vote and we adhere to the results. Otherwise there'd be chaos.

    There's chaos in the streets right now. And the problem isn't college students agitating against microaggressions, or the underprivileged demanding equal rights, but the so-called law and order party, which under the rubric of creating a safer America is making most citizens feel anything but.

    Words have consequences. And the media has influence. And they're both trumped by corporations, who do what's right for themselves, not the country. Did you read the recent "Washington Post" story about companies' influence upon the public's belief in climate change? Turns out, by funding studies, energy producers muddied the water, they made people believe climate change wasn't real. Just read "Why are so many Americans skeptical about climate change? A study offers a surprising answer." for edification: http://wapo.st/1jh0v6c

    And now we've got fanatical anti-abortion zealots demonizing Planned Parenthood, creating false videos, all in the name of eradicating abortion, which is the law of the land, even though it's nearly impossible to get one in many red states. Locations are few, and the underclass is poor. And doctors and patients are both afraid of being shot.

    But taking the law into your own hands is a feature of the west...

    Back in the 1800s. We've progressed. Or maybe we haven't. What if we got all those shooters to give up their mobile phones and videogame consoles. Then they might realize that times are different.

    And you might say that the shooters are mentally ill. I'd say that ten percent of the public is crazy and we don't know who they are, but by sending messages of terrorism we are incentivizing them to take action, to become famous, to become martyrs for the cause.

    I don't stop hearing the Republicans saying that Obama isn't tough on ISIS, that he isn't forceful enough, that Muslims are evil, and our national way of life must be preserved.

    Then I see these same people under the banner of Christianity inciting disorder in our communities, insisting the rest of us must adhere to their beliefs. Sure, the Middle East is destabilized, sure, it's scary. But does that mean we have to sacrifice all our personal freedoms here at home, does that mean we can substitute the fear of religious rule by one faith for the domination of another? There's a supposed war on Christmas, which is like saying the NBA is challenged by tiddlywinks. The minions incited by the blowhards on Fox News are creating unrest which results in shootings but the meek and unarmed are the true problem?

    That's right, this is a right wing problem, a Republican problem. You don't see lefties shooting up churches and you don't see Democrats insisting that everyone smoke dope. The white population is declining in influence and through a weird alliance of rich and poor, we've destabilized our entire nation while these same people keep protesting their innocence and deflecting attention upon ISIS and other bogeymen.

    ISIS is real. I'd be lying if I said I was not afraid.

    But I'm more afraid of some Bible-toting idiot worried his tax money is being used to fund sin deciding to shoot up my neighborhood in an effort to restore order.

    A shooter descended upon my neighborhood a couple of years back, and when the sirens go off and the police cars scream and you've got no idea what's happening you realize not only can it happen here, it does.

    I did not get shot.

    But innocent students at Santa Monica College did. Those who were just going about their business, trying to improve their lives, bothering nobody in the process.

    Your right to bear arms is no threat to a hacker who can threaten the government with the click of a mouse. And the more you try to protect yourself with arms the more you destabilize our entire community.

    We all are responsible for what happened in Colorado. Because we refused to have not only effective gun control, we've been fanning the flames of discontent for decades, polarizing those in this great nation of ours, when the truth is we're really more together than apart.

    Donald Trump has no chance of becoming President.

    But the media follows him because he sells advertising.

    Irresponsibility is rampant. How do we expect people to do the right thing when corporations are avoiding taxes and everyone believes they have the right to have things go their way all the time?

    Compromise and understanding, not stand your ground with your hands covering your ears.

    But that's not what happens in Congress.

    And that's not what's happening in the streets.

    We should be ashamed of ourselves. We destabilized an entire region to impose our way of life on others.

    Turns out our way of life is riddled with problems, a good hard look in the mirror is necessary. We need to lay down arms and respect the legal wishes of others.

    In a nation where everybody believes he can become a star, and is entitled to untold riches, where religious martyrs are lionized, we've got a lot of looking at ourselves to do. _ Bob Lefsetz
    Lindsey Graham: "We are at war and president Obama is fighting crime," Graham said.

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