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    lawmakers want a national car crushing program in economic stimulus package?!?!?!?!?

    SEMA is opposing an effort by some Washington lawmakers to include a national car crushing program in the upcoming economic stimulus package.

    Vehicles targeted for the scrap pile will likely include Chevy Blazers, Silverados, S-10s and Tahoes; Dodge Dakotas and Rams; Ford Explorers and F-Series; Jeep Cherokees and Wranglers; and any other SUV or truck that obtains less than 18 mpg.

    Under the plan, the federal government would pay a premium for '99 and newer cars. Click here to oppose the legislation.

    The so-called “Accelerated Retirement of Inefficient Vehicles Act” is "Cash for Clunkers" with a twist. Instead of focusing exclusively on old cars as is typical with scrappage programs, this bill will target any vehicle with lower fuel-economy ratings. Participants will receive a cash voucher to purchase a more fuel-efficient new car or used car (model year 2004 or later) or receive credit for the purchase of public transportation tickets.

    Under the legislation, “fuel efficient” means at least 25% better mileage than the CAFE standard. It will be illegal to resell the scrapped vehicles. Bill sponsors want to destroy 4 million pickups and SUVs over the next four years.

    The program will fail to achieve its goal of improving fuel efficiency and stimulating car sales, but will increase unemployment and the cost of used cars and parts. Here’s why:

    Given the minimal $1,500–$4,500 voucher value, the program will lure rarely driven second and third vehicles that have minimal impact on overall fuel economy and air pollution. This is not a wise investment of tax dollars.
    The program will reduce the number of vehicles available for low-income individuals and drive up the cost of the remaining vehicles and repair parts. This is a basic supply-and-demand reality.

    The program will remove the opportunity to market specialty products that are designed exclusively for the targeted pickups and SUVs, including equipment that increases engine performance and fuel mileage. Congress will be enacting a program to eliminate jobs and reduce business revenues in the automotive aftermarket.

    The idea that the trucks and SUVs must be scrapped in order to save energy is irrational. The program’s “carbon footprint” does not factor in the amount of energy and natural resources expended in manufacturing the existing car, spent scrapping it and manufacturing a replacement car.

    The program fails to acknowledge driver needs, such as the ability to transport a family, tow a trailer or rely upon the performance, safety and utility characteristics associated with the larger vehicles. Instead, these vehicles will be destroyed.

    There is no evidence that the program will achieve the goal of boosting new-car sales or increasing fuel mileage. Many states have considered scrappage programs in the past as a way to help clean the air or increase mpg, but abandoned the effort because they simply don’t work. The programs are not cost-effective and do not achieve verifiable fuel economy or air-quality benefits.

    The program will hurt thousands of independent repair shops, auto restorers, customizers and their customers across the country that depend on the used-car market. This industry provides thousands of American jobs and generates millions of dollars in local, state and federal tax revenues.

    “Our members, like all business entities, are suffering the effects of the stalled economy,” said Steve McDonald, SEMA vice president of government affairs. “In fact, for our members that market product for newer vehicles, we depend on a thriving and vibrant auto industry to create new business opportunities. We support efforts to spur new-car sales. We don’t, however, support public policy efforts that we are convinced don’t work and will waste tax dollars in the process.”

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    The tree huggers have been pushing for this for well over a decade. They say older cars, when it fact, it is a thinly veiled shot across the bow of Muscle Car enthusiasts. Sad fact is, most of these folks have cars that run much cleaner than they did when they were new.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VanHalenRules View Post

    Ya really want to see me pissed, try and pry the keys to my Pontiac out of my hand...but be careful, the other hand will have a 12 ga in it.

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    this is so retarded. Each new retarded aspect of the obama spendathon is more retarded than the previous. It's exhausting.

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    What is the life expectancy for the typical car, anyway? I mean, i can think of tons of models on the road in the '80s and '90s that I never see anymore - not a one! Such as '89 Ford Escorts - I had one, can't remember when was the last time I saw one. I still see Escort wagons similar to the '95 I owned from time to time, but not a lot. Chevrolet Luminas - I think I can recall seeing one in recent years. Even stuff like Tauruses I don't see that much of. Those old style Honda Civics - I remember when the road was lousy with them - now you see one once in a while, but not that often. So let these dinosaurs of the road die off in their own time as well. People that want to keep 'em running for 20 or 30 years, that's their own deal, but they'll be few and far between.

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    Quote Originally Posted by billy007 View Post
    What is the life expectancy for the typical car, anyway? I mean, i can think of tons of models on the road in the '80s and '90s that I never see anymore - not a one! Such as '89 Ford Escorts - I had one, can't remember when was the last time I saw one. I still see Escort wagons similar to the '95 I owned from time to time, but not a lot. Chevrolet Luminas - I think I can recall seeing one in recent years. Even stuff like Tauruses I don't see that much of. Those old style Honda Civics - I remember when the road was lousy with them - now you see one once in a while, but not that often. So let these dinosaurs of the road die off in their own time as well. People that want to keep 'em running for 20 or 30 years, that's their own deal, but they'll be few and far between.
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    Fuck that!

    My 1990 Jeep Cherokee has over 200,000 miles on it and Ive put about $1,500 in fixing it and I bought it for $2,000. So if the goverment wants to give me $3,500 for a more fuel efficent car, fine whatever. But if they are gunna scrap my jeep, they can go fuck themselves!
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    On the flip-side, if we could find a way to ensure that each car was filled with eco-nazis and bonehead government types when we crush them then I see this as a win.

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    Now here is a car crushing program.
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    guess I know where the Tauruses went now!

 

 

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