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    Where You Won't Shop in 2009
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    While industry executives and shoppers will remember 2008 as the year the party ended, figure 2009 to be the year of the hangover. Already, Circuit City, Linens 'N Things and Mervyn's stores are going away. Sharper Image is too, though the company will continue to sell some of its high-end gadgets through license agreements with other retailers.

    More pain is on the way. One-third of U.S. women recently surveyed by America's Research Group said they plan no clothing purchases--none--in 2009. Normally, it's just 4%. That means the market is still far too saturated with stores.

    Expect closings and bankruptcies to rattle the likes of Lane Bryant, Gap, and Starbucks. It's the inevitable counterpunch to the days of retailers fighting hand over fist for market share during an era of loose credit and minuscule interest rates.

    Those days are over, probably for a long time. While accelerating unemployment will only last so long, consumers' debt loads and credit access don't figure to recover to pre-party levels for quite awhile.

    "I don't think we will live the same way for 10 years," says Howard Davidowitz, chairman of New York-based retail consultant and investment bank Davidowitz & Associates. "People are so scared they're starting to save."

    Retailers at risk in 2009, he thinks, include outerwear specialist Eddie Bauer and teen-apparel-seller Pacific Sunwear, along with Zales, the big jewelry chain. All three shuttered at least 8% of their U.S. stores last year, with many more closings expected. The same is largely true of Charming Shoppes, the owner of Lane Bryant, which closed 150 stores last year. With a mountain of debt and losses totaling over $260 million over the most recent 12-month reporting period, the company will close another 100 locations this year.

    Another possible casualty: Sears Holdings, operator of Sears and Kmart stores. A key to hedge fund manager Eddie Lampert's 2005 merger of the two chains was in the underlying real estate. But with those values down 30% or so since then, slumping sales hit even worse.

    "I'd be surprised if Sears-Kmart makes it through the year," says Britt Beemer, who runs retail market-research firm America's Research Group.

    Non-apparel specialists like Starbucks and Sprint Nextel won't be going away, but they will close hundreds more stores during the coming year, Davidowitz predicts. Narrow specialties (Sprint's cellphones) and high prices (Starbucks' coffee) are tough sells as the consumer mood turns thrifty. What plagues Starbucks will also affect other upscale goody chains like Mrs. Fields' Cookies, and causal dining outlets like Applebee's and Cheesecake Factory. Any of the neighborhood outlets for those restaurant chains could be a casualty this year. For too many customers now, it's McDonald's or bust.

    Davidowitz doesn't think a huge government stimulus will help. Better to let things bottom out naturally before regrouping. "Obama's plan will make it worse," he says. "We got into this by borrowing and stimulating, now he wants to borrow and stimulate more."


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    I don't shop at those stores now anyway.
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    This article hits home here in Flagler county since stores have popped up around here like wildfire over the last 5 years. Talk about major oversaturation...3 Publix stores, 2 Winn-Dixies, ,WalMart, Super Target, Home Depot, Lowes, Pet Smart and list goes on and on...all for a county with a population under 90,000. I fully expect many of these places to be closed by the end of the year. Super Target, which has been open for less than a year, has already done layoffs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VanHalenRules View Post
    This article hits home here in Flagler county since stores have popped up around here like wildfire over the last 5 years. Talk about major oversaturation...3 Publix stores, 2 Winn-Dixies, ,WalMart, Super Target, Home Depot, Lowes, Pet Smart and list goes on and on...all for a county with a population under 90,000. I fully expect many of these places to be closed by the end of the year. Super Target, which has been open for less than a year, has already done layoffs.
    so you got your tan strip center with the super target/petco/marshalls/and best buy huh? YAY for suburban cliches and sprawl!

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    Well, I will not shop at Wal-Mart in 2009 (just as I did not in 2008).
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    I'm of the "local first" mentality.....while it is not possible to shop locally exclusively, at least in my location, I support local store owners by thinking of them first when I do my shopping...when you are dependent on huge chain stores for products and those chains go under, it will change the landscape...150,000 chain store locations are expected to close this year...the next "victim"....malls... as hundreds are in trouble from closing "anchor stores" and debt coming due without banks to refinance it.

    you may want to add Borders Books to the chains that are in trouble...they've been trying to find a buyer since summer, have sold off their foriegn locations, are shuttering underperforming Walden books stores ..even Barnes and Noble have looked into buying a stake in Borders and have decided against it


    Best idea I have heard in a long time to save the book industry is to have many books come out simultaneously in Hardcover and paperback so that those who want to buy hardcover for their libraries can, but those of us who do not need our light reading in hardcover can purchase while the iron is hot ...it would save tremendously on marketing costs

    With fewer publishers, fewer titles being published, fewer readers and fewer independent bookstores to choose titles out of the mainstream bestsellers, major changes need to be made to save the publishing industry

    we definately won't live the same way for 10 years...if ever..and that could be a good thing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daisy Hill View Post
    I'm of the "local first" mentality.....while it is not possible to shop locally exclusively, at least in my location, I support local store owners by thinking of them first when I do my shopping...when you are dependent on huge chain stores for products and those chains go under, it will change the landscape...150,000 chain store locations are expected to close this year...the next "victim"....malls... as hundreds are in trouble from closing "anchor stores" and debt coming due without banks to refinance it.

    you may want to add Borders Books to the chains that are in trouble...they've been trying to find a buyer since summer, have sold off their foriegn locations, are shuttering underperforming Walden books stores ..even Barnes and Noble have looked into buying a stake in Borders and have decided against it


    Best idea I have heard in a long time to save the book industry is to have many books come out simultaneously in Hardcover and paperback so that those who want to buy hardcover for their libraries can, but those of us who do not need our light reading in hardcover can purchase while the iron is hot ...it would save tremendously on marketing costs

    With fewer publishers, fewer titles being published, fewer readers and fewer independent bookstores to choose titles out of the mainstream bestsellers, major changes need to be made to save the publishing industry

    we definately won't live the same way for 10 years...if ever..and that could be a good thing
    It could be a good thing, but getting to the recovery zone is gonna be painful.

    I found this quote, "People are so scared they're starting to save," ironic, because he made it sound like saving money was a bad thing--because it hurts the economy. High debt and loose credit is good for the economy, saving money and only spending what you have is bad (?). Hmm... I hope one of the changes for the better that comes out of this is we all, collectively, start being more responsible in our spending (and borrowing) habits. Still, it's tough times right now...

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndrewThomas.net View Post
    Hmm... I hope one of the changes for the better that comes out of this is we all, collectively, start being more responsible in our spending (and borrowing) habits. Still, it's tough times right now...

    Surely you aren't suggesting that people should live within their means.
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    Quote Originally Posted by broken9500 View Post
    so you got your tan strip center with the super target/petco/marshalls/and best buy huh? YAY for suburban cliches and sprawl!
    No Best Buy, or any other big box electronics place for that matter, those are a drive to either Daytona or St. Augustine. There is a Michaels craft store and a few miscellanious mom and pop shops in there...along with a new McDonalds, which is all of 2.5 miles from the other McDonalds.

    Most of the blame for sprawl in this county can be directly linked to ITT's development of Palm Coast, which flew under the radar for decades and then took off when folks discovered that they could have a new 1600 sq ft home with lot for under $85k well into 2002. Now, all the major builders have pulled up stakes and most of the local builders are either struggling or have shut down.
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    I have not nor will I shop at Wal-Mart or its subsidies.

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    You won't believe the negative outlook on all stores articles like this gives out. My wife manages a store of a nationwide retailer, and at least 12 times a week she is asked if the rumors are true that they are closing. Her store is never mentioned in any of these stories either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VanHalenRules View Post
    No Best Buy, or any other big box electronics place for that matter, those are a drive to either Daytona or St. Augustine. There is a Michaels craft store and a few miscellanious mom and pop shops in there...along with a new McDonalds, which is all of 2.5 miles from the other McDonalds.

    Most of the blame for sprawl in this county can be directly linked to ITT's development of Palm Coast, which flew under the radar for decades and then took off when folks discovered that they could have a new 1600 sq ft home with lot for under $85k well into 2002. Now, all the major builders have pulled up stakes and most of the local builders are either struggling or have shut down.
    man, that tan strip center ALWAYS has some combination of the following:

    Marshalls or Ross
    Petco or Petsmart
    Best Buy
    Kohls
    Linens and Things (not anymore!)
    Pier One
    Michaels
    Target

    it's always tan, always sterile and always crowded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeoBandit View Post
    I don't shop at those stores now anyway.
    Quote Originally Posted by VanHalenRules View Post
    This article hits home here in Flagler county since stores have popped up around here like wildfire over the last 5 years. Talk about major oversaturation...3 Publix stores, 2 Winn-Dixies, ,WalMart, Super Target, Home Depot, Lowes, Pet Smart and list goes on and on...all for a county with a population under 90,000. I fully expect many of these places to be closed by the end of the year. Super Target, which has been open for less than a year, has already done layoffs.
    Quote Originally Posted by AndrewThomas.net View Post
    It could be a good thing, but getting to the recovery zone is gonna be painful.

    I found this quote, "People are so scared they're starting to save," ironic, because he made it sound like saving money was a bad thing--because it hurts the economy. High debt and loose credit is good for the economy, saving money and only spending what you have is bad (?). Hmm... I hope one of the changes for the better that comes out of this is we all, collectively, start being more responsible in our spending (and borrowing) habits. Still, it's tough times right now...
    I have to agree with over-saturation but what scares me is this is an overall indication of just how BAD the economy is getting. It's gonna be MIGHTY DAMN UNCOMFORTABLE for the forseeable future...

    Just this WEEK, two very close friends of mine are very worried about keeping their vehicles as a result of lay-offs...
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    Quote Originally Posted by sixstring View Post
    I have to agree with over-saturation but what scares me is this is an overall indication of just how BAD the economy is getting. It's gonna be MIGHTY DAMN UNCOMFORTABLE for the forseeable future...

    Just this WEEK, two very close friends of mine are very worried about keeping their vehicles as a result of lay-offs...
    When perusing Facebook updates from friends it seems almost every day someone is posting about having been laid off or searching for work or something along those lines. I have noticed a collective mentality of "we're all in this together," at least among the various circles I'm part of. That kind of support isn't a bad thing, and I hope we take those qualities of unity and sacrifice with us whenever it is we venture out of this crisis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndrewThomas.net View Post
    When perusing Facebook updates from friends it seems almost every day someone is posting about having been laid off or searching for work or something along those lines. I have noticed a collective mentality of "we're all in this together," at least among the various circles I'm part of. That kind of support isn't a bad thing, and I hope we take those qualities of unity and sacrifice with us whenever it is we venture out of this crisis.
    I hear ya, my brotha. And on a side note, since I don't see much of you over there, my best to you and yours. Hope you're hanging in there. Me? Taking it day by day...and thank GOD I have a steady, secure day gig. Don't see EVER getting laid-off from this job, God willing.
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    Worked for me anyway. I still have colleagues asking me what it is like to fuck a green womanoid with seventeen breasts.
    Alternatively just walk in and inform everyone that alcoholism is indeed a disease and that they should be less judgemental and perhaps a little more supportive."
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    "something tells me that after the nuclear holocaust, there'll be twinkies, cockroaches, and a dave vs. sammy argument going on somewhere".
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