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    Default Good Samaritans can be sued...

    http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/play...p/?cl=11186852

    brings a whole new meaning to the saying "I wouldn't pee on them if they were on fire."

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    Quote Originally Posted by broken9500 View Post
    http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/play...p/?cl=11186852

    brings a whole new meaning to the saying "I wouldn't pee on them if they were on fire."
    It does kind of suck. "No good deed goes unpunished!" Something like that I guess. The pinche lawers and the laws make it this way now. You're pretty much fucked at the drive through any way you want to order. Out.
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    It's a suck ruling. The state's Good Sam law was supposed to protect EMTs and Firefighters. Had the girl who pulled the injurred party from the vehicle then began CPR then she would have been protected.

    The bottom line: Wait until the vehicle is on fire before extracting.

    Also, lets face it, they'd all been partying and drugs and booze are a huge part of the story. I figure that since this is the holidays I'm remind my fellow Linkers to drive safe.
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    Dumb. Stupid lawsuit potential, but nothing that should stop anybody from doing what you know to be the right thing at the time.
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    I think the idea is pretty crappy on the surface but at the same time, I remember when I was a kid and we were learning about CPR and stuff and the EMTs were real serious about telling us not to try and do it unless we knew what we were doing because we could collapse someone's rib cage or collapse a lung. I get someone wanting to help but if someone breaks my neck because they don't know what they're doing, I'd be pretty pissed off too. Like so many other things, it's completely situational.

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    I'm going to have to think about what I tell my students in my Red Cross Classes now. I have always told them that if they are acting as a prudent person would, and are using the abilities they have and not "overstepping" their skills that they are protected by Good Sam laws. I use the example that if they have been trained in CPR and they have occasion to have to use it, they are covered.....however if they try to perform a tracheotomy with a pen because they have seen it on ER....no...help where you can, but let the pro's do their stuff

    without knowing the specifics of the case and this woman's injury and how the "good sam" treated her, it's hard to stay if he overstepped.


    If anything, I think this case will result in more states looking carefully at their laws and amending them to protect good samaritans

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    If something unforseen happens while a trained/skilled person is tending to someone in an emergency there shouldn't be cause for a lawsuit. Things happen and sometimes there's nothing anyone can do. But if some ignoramous, no matter how well intentioned they might be, hurts someone due to their inability to effectively assess the situation, I can completely see why the victim would have reason and would want to hold that person liable for whatever damages they caused.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seenbad View Post
    I don't.
    no? so if you were in an accident and crammed in your car and I came along and manhandled you out of the wreckage snapping a couple vertbrae in the process you wouldn't want my ass in a sling? In a LOT of cases, people are better off being left exactly as they are until professionals show up with the propper equipment to safely extract someone.

    I hope this doesn't sound abrasive or argumentative...because that's not how I feel, I'm curious to know more about your line of thinking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by broken9500 View Post
    no? so if you were in an accident and crammed in your car and I came along and manhandled you out of the wreckage snapping a couple vertbrae in the process you wouldn't want my ass in a sling? In a LOT of cases, people are better off being left exactly as they are until professionals show up with the propper equipment to safely extract someone.

    I hope this doesn't sound abrasive or argumentative...because that's not how I feel, I'm curious to know more about your line of thinking.
    Nah, not taken that way at all, no worries.

    No, I wouldn't hold anything but respect and gratitude towards you for putting yourself in danger to attempt to save me and letting me live another day. If you somehow meant to snap a vertebrae we'd have a problem, but if that happened by accident and your intentions were good in just trying to save me from a bad scene, man, I'd have nothing but thankfulness. Wanting your ass in a sling for trying to help me would be the farthest thing from my mind. I could never blame you for that. Your intentions being good and decent (with most people I guess) goes much further than you may think...I think.
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    Problem here is we're trying to draw the line between a prudent person with good intentions, and a moron who can't find their ass with both hands but stayed in a Holiday Inn Express last night.

    Tough call, since that line can be drawn in many places. I thought the point of the Good Samaritan law was to help with that line in the first place, but I guess if you have enough lawyers, anything can be fucked up.

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    Well, I still wouldn't sue anybody regardless of intelligence if their intentions were good and they just wanted to help me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seenbad View Post
    Well, I still wouldn't sue anybody regardless of intelligence if their intentions were good and they just wanted to help me.
    I probably wouldn't either, but I can at least understand the concept of not wanting someone getting so far in over their heads that they hurt someone else.

    And I never really mentioned intelligence - morons can be smart as hell. Just look around here, dude.

    Just saying/agreeing that it's situational, and if we played what if long enough, I probably could find your breaking point on this too.

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    perhaps, but I'd hope you'd find that breaking point come long after many others. I just cant' fathom condemning good intentions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seenbad View Post
    perhaps, but I'd hope you'd find that breaking point come long after many others. I just cant' fathom condemning good intentions.
    "Hey bro...let me help you out of that burning car!"

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