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    Default Eddie not in Aussies "Rich list" top 50 guitarists!!!

    I was flicking through the channels on TV tonight, and on "The Rich list", a couple had to name one of the big names in The top 50 guitarists. This is australian tv, so I dont know where they got this top 50 from, but there was alot of money to be won. The guy said "Hendrix", and he was there. Then he said "EDDIE VAN HALEN". The host was hell bent that Eddie was in there, and so would any other muso/music fan, etc. He even mentioned Eddies name atleast 5 times, but it was a no. Eddie was'nt even in the top 50, he said Eddie was at number 70 or something. I find that, a disgrace. Who the hell did this list? Brian May was at number 25......and the wife of the hubby answering the question did'nt even know who Jeff Beck was.
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    It was probably taken from the Rolling Stone list. What a bunch of BS that was. A few days after that list came out, there was a poll at RS.com asking who people thought the best guitarist of all-time was. There were like 4 or 5 options. Ed was one of them.

    They put him at #70 (or #72 or whatever it was) in order to cause a fuss. It worked. They would have seemed slightly more credible had Ed been placed at, say, #12 or something, because then it would seem like they genuinely felt he wasn't top 5 material or whatever. In the seventies, though... their intentions were pretty darn obvious.
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    I am constantly trying to get the (Swedish) owner of the club I play in to
    let us do more VH. He says no b/c most of our patrons are Aussies and
    that Aussies don't give a shit about VH. And from the few I know or
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    board, for example) but the argument is VH was never as phenomenal
    abroad as they were in the States. Maybe some down underers can clue
    us in from their personal experience.

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    Well, no justice was done tonight when the host said Eddies at no. 70, or whatever. I know Eddies spent the last 10 years mostly A.W.O.L but it was just a bullshit list. As much as I love Brian May, he is no way better than Eddie, or even half as close to Eddies playing.
    VH have been successful though in australia I must say. In 98' they had a good run of prmotion on TV. they were on "Hey hey its saturday", "Today/Tonight", ETC. There was on add for the album and tour aswell.....and there was a rumor they were touring after they finished their US shows in 2004, before everything went wrong.
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    Van Halen are a forgotten band here in Australia - Majority of people think they split up years ago and haven't done anything since.
    I guess only touring here once and that one time was with Cherone doesn't do much for promotion in this neck of the woods.
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    To be fair, EVH has done nothing to maintain his public profile within mainstream pop culture. Was this compiled by a random public survey? In the States, we have a game show called "Family Feud" where the answers to questions are from survey groups of 100. I'd bet if the questions of top guitarists was posed to such a random population, Eddie wouldn't be as high on that list as we VH geeks would think. We must remember that the day's when everybody seemed to be coping EVH's guitar style and image are two decades in the rear view and perceived to be an era not as vital or important as, say, the 60's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BOMBER View Post
    Van Halen are a forgotten band here in Australia - Majority of people think they split up years ago and haven't done anything since.
    I guess only touring here once and that one time was with Cherone doesn't do much for promotion in this neck of the woods.
    With a lump in my throat.....I do agree Bomber. No one even knew about their recent tour with Dave. I've heard people say to me "I hear Daves coming back", and I've said "Well, they've just done a US tour with him, so I guess he is back", but how long for...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Casemeister View Post
    It was probably taken from the Rolling Stone list. What a bunch of BS that was. A few days after that list came out, there was a poll at RS.com asking who people thought the best guitarist of all-time was. There were like 4 or 5 options. Ed was one of them.

    They put him at #70 (or #72 or whatever it was) in order to cause a fuss. It worked. They would have seemed slightly more credible had Ed been placed at, say, #12 or something, because then it would seem like they genuinely felt he wasn't top 5 material or whatever. In the seventies, though... their intentions were pretty darn obvious.
    Had to be from the stupid list that rag of a publication put out.

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    I saw the show last night, it was based on the Rolling Stone list.

    Absolute shit list though, Eddie should have easily made it.

    Although the band is more or less forgotten down here now, most people are still familiar with and acknowledge that Eddie was/is a great guitarist...
    “And what we have at our fingertips is arguably one of the greatest high tenor voices ever – that was in Michael Anthony. In our tiny little corner of the universe, that voice is as identifiable as the high voice in Earth, Wind & Fire, as identifiable as the high voice in the Beach Boys. Van Halen is an indelicate house blend of both – that’s intentionally. So I would always look forward to that reunion.” - David Lee Roth

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    You know, it's the end of the year. Australian TV people aren't any smarter than US TV people. They needed to fill air-time and read a list.

    Stuff happens, Australia is still cool.

    I mean it's "Hannah Montana" not "Cindy Sydney".
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    Well they never bothered touring here in their heyday so what do you expect, bands that make regular trips here tend to do a lot better and develop a loyal fanbase.
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    Or bands that are from there *cough*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goo View Post
    Well they never bothered touring here in their heyday so what do you expect, bands that make regular trips here tend to do a lot better and develop a loyal fanbase.
    Yes, I agree. The more active a band is in a particular area makes for stronger support from the fans.

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    Here is a "non Rolling Stone-esque" list of guitarists from "The Chop Shop" radio program (via Blabbermouth.net). Eddie is #3.

    Envision Radio Networks' "Chop Shop" guitar show has announced "The Chop Shop's Top 100 Most Complete Guitar Players of All Time", a newly published list of the all-time greatest guitar players. Program host Steve Black (WRIF-FM) assembled a panel of music industry experts to help choose the list featuring 100 of the most revered guitar players crossing multiple genres. Rock legend Eric Clapton, English rock guitarist Jeff Beck, blues legend Muddy Waters, PEARL JAM guitarist Mike McCready, and Dave Murray and Adrian Smith of IRON MAIDEN are a few of the highlights on "The Chop Shop's Top 100 Most Complete Guitar Players of All Time". Each guitarist was graded in nine areas including technical ability, influence on the music industry, songwriting, signature sound, longevity, and four other categories. The complete list with video and judging criteria is available now at www.chopshopradio.com.

    "Chop Shop" host Steve Black comments, "I love the complete angle we took with this list, and the depth of the details we used during the grading process." Black continues, "This is the best top 100 list I've ever seen."

    The "Chop Shop" and "Chop Shop Classic" feature weekly updates on bands and tours, web exclusive content, and special guests all while playing 10 songs an hour. Both versions are two hours in length and contain two feature interviews as well as the exclusive "Chop Shop Hall of Fame" feature, where such guests as Ted Nugent, Brian May, Leslie West, and hundreds others pay tribute to guitar legends Eddie Van Halen, Jimi Hendrix, Angus Young, Slash and more.

    "The Chop Shop's Top 100 Most Complete Guitar Players of All Time":

    01. Jimmy Page 87.94
    02. Jimi Hendrix 84.92
    03. Eddie Van Halen 84.81
    04. David Gilmour 82.72
    05. Keith Richards 82.48
    06. Pete Townshend 80.66
    07. Steve Vai 79.74
    08. Les Paul 78.61
    09. Angus Young 78.56
    10. Jeff Beck 77.77
    11. Stevie Ray Vaughan 75.86
    12. Tony Iommi (BLACK SABBATH) 74.67
    13. Eric Clapton 74.62
    14. James Hetfield (METALLICA) 73.62
    15. Ritchie Blackmore (RAINBOW, DEEP PURPLE 72.61
    16. Slash (GUNS N' ROSES, VELVET REVOLVER) 71.60
    17. Frank Zappa 71.57
    18. George Harrison 71.49
    19. Randy Rhoads (OZZY OSBOURNE) 70.89
    20. Ted Nugent 70.83
    21. Dave Murray/Adrian Smith (IRON MAIDEN) 70.72
    22. Carlos Santana 70.44
    23. Steve Lukather (TOTO) 70.41
    24. Joe Satriani 69.71
    25. Chuck Berry 69.53
    26. Kirk Hammett (METALLICA) 69.48
    27. Zakk Wylde (OZZY OSBOURNE) 68.73
    28. Brian May (QUEEN) 67.57
    29. Alex Lifeson (RUSH) 67.51
    30. Billy Gibbons (ZZ TOP) 67.45
    31. Malcolm Young (AC/DC) 66.56
    32. Joe Perry (AEROSMITH) 65.60
    33. Joe Walsh (EAGLES, JAMES GANG) 63.44
    34. B.B. King 63.30
    35. Kurt Cobain (NIRVANA) 63.17
    36. Dimebag Darrell Abbott (PANTERA) 62.55
    37. Neal Schon (JOURNEY) 62.45
    38. John Lennon 62.44
    39. Mark Knopfler (DIRE STRAITS) 62.43
    40. Dickey Betts (ALLMAN BROTHERS BAND) 60.47
    41. Tom Scholz (BOSTON) 60.42
    41. Robby Krieger (DOORS) 60.42
    43. Buddy Guy 60.38
    44. Tom Morello (RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE) 60.37
    45. The Edge (U2) 60.34
    46. Gary Rossington/Allen Collins (LYNYRD SKYNYRD) 59.49
    47. Glenn Tipton/K.K. Downing (JUDAS PRIEST) 58.64
    48. Peter Frampton 58.59
    49. Mick Mars (MÖTLEY CRÜE) 58.34
    50. Steve Howe (YES, ASIA) 57.36
    51. John Frusciante (RED HOT CHILI PEPPERS) 55.46
    52. Brad Whitford (AEROSMITH) 55.45
    53. Scotty Moore (ELVIS PRESLEY, RICK NELSON) 55.35
    54. Rik Emmett (TRIUMPH) 54.58
    55. Yngwie Malmsteen 54.56
    56. Leslie West (MOUNTAIN) 54.50
    57. Dean DeLeo (STONE TEMPLE PILOTS) 54.46
    58. Ace Frehley (KISS) 54.38
    59. Bo Diddley 54.37
    60. Muddy Waters 54.36
    61. John 5 (MARILYN MANSON, ROB ZOMBIE) 53.63
    62. Gary Moore (THIN LIZZY) 53.55
    63. Paul Gilbert (MR. BIG, RACER X) 53.51
    64. George Lynch (DOKKEN, LYNCH MOB) 53.41
    65. Adam Jones (TOOL) 53.20
    66. Robin Trower 52.62
    67. Michael Schenker (UFO, MSG) 52.52
    67. Johnny Winter 52.52
    69. Michael Hedges 52.40
    70. Robert Johnson 52.36
    71. Dave Mustaine (MEGADETH) 52.34
    72. Warren DiMartini (RATT) 51.49
    73. Dave Davies (THE KINKS) 51.36
    74. Nuno Bettencourt (EXTREME) 50.52
    75. Mark Tremonti (CREED, ALTER BRIDGE) 50.40
    76. Dan Donegan (DISTURBED) 50.39
    77. Warren Haynes (ALLMAN BROTHERS, GOVT. MULE) 50.36
    77. Matthias Jabbs (SCORPIONS) 50.36
    79. Freddie King 50.33
    80. Chris DeGarmo/Michael Wilton (QUEENSRŸCHE) 50.28
    81. Neil Young 50.23
    81. Steve Cropper 50.23
    83. Frank Marino (MAHOGANY RUSH) 49.51
    84. Ty Tabor (KING'S X) 49.46
    85. Eric Johnson 49.44
    86. Mike McCready (PEARL JAM) 49.34
    87. Steve Miller 49.33
    88. John Fogerty 49.26
    89. John Sykes (THIN LIZZY, WHITESNAKE) 49.20
    90. Vivian Campbell (DEF LEPPARD) 48.41
    91. Dick Wagner (ALICE COOPER) 48.40
    91. Kim Thayil (SOUNDGARDEN) 48.40
    93. Jerry Cantrell (ALICE IN CHAINS) 48.28
    94. Glen Buxton (ALICE COOPER) 47.55
    95. Rick Nielsen (CHEAP TRICK) 47.44
    96. Rod Price (FOGHAT) 47.41
    97. Frank Hannon (TESLA) 47.38
    97. Buckethead (GUNS N' ROSES) 47.38
    99. Steve Stevens (BILLY IDOL) 47.36
    100. Trevor Rabin (YES) 47.36

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    I caught the show too... It was definitely from the Rolling Stone list. I knew straight away that Ed wouldn't be on it. Even my mum was surprised. She rang me and said "what the fuck, no Eddie". She was more pissed off than I was. 25 + years of listening and hearing about him must of rubbed off on her. She wasn't happy that Vai wasn't on there either.

    Van Halen are far from dead here in Adelaide. Everyone I know still loves them. Just about every time I go into the city wearing VH merch, I get stopped by total strangers and we start talking about VH. That's not an exaggeration either.

    Unfortunately, the only people who don't really know anything are the guys working in the guitar shops... "EVH has a range of equipment and accessories coming out??? We haven't heard anything". Idiots.

    Plenty of bands that have only been here a few times still have huge followings here. The Beatles, Zeppelin, Stones, Floyd, Aerosmith. The Doors and Elvis never even came here... well, the Doors were here a couple of years ago, but that doesn't count. Fear not, if a VH tour was anounced here tomorrow , it would be sold out by the end out the week...
    If you have nothing nice to say about Eddie Van Halen, you're at the right website. - Me (A few years ago)

    "People take Van Halen much more seriously than we do" - David Lee Roth (1980's)

    "I don't sit on the end of your bed while you're trying to make a living" - David Lee Roth (1988)

    "For some reason people love to complain about everything. The internet has made it easy for people to do that. Shut the fuck up and get a life, or show me how good you can do it."- Edward Van Halen

    "A lot of people ask me which Van Halen singer was better. You can't compare them. It's like asking which guitarist is better. Nobody is better than anybody. Every player is their own person."-Edward Van Halen

    "I do like Eddie Van Halen as a player. He gets it right quite often." -Paul McCartney

 

 

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