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    Default Usama, Osama, which is it?

    Can someone explain to me why i've seen Bin Laden's first name spelled two different ways, and on all the major networks and teh FBI's most wanted list?
    Is it Usama?
    Is it Osama?

    Perhaps if we cleared that up we'd have a better chance of catching him.

    You know, at an Aghanny border when this 6' 4" terrorist looking guy comes in and they ask, "are you Osama?", and he says, "no, I'm Usama" and they just let him walk do to a clerical error.

    Just wondering.
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    As long as we're at it, can we get a ruling on the spelling of Momar Khadafi?
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    I believe the proper spelling for both is PIECE OF SHIT.
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    There is no proper spelling. The English language versions of Arab names that we see and use are phonetic approximations of the Arabic script.
    They are never exact since, all too often, foreign languages use sounds that we don't use in English. Basically, it sounds like "Osama/Usama" and this is the closest we have got to putting it on paper.

    A recent example I saw of this at work is for websites about my city.

    The correct spelling is Düsseldorf, but since most countries don't have the umlaut (two dots above a vowel) they have approximated it into English, thus the websites read "Duesseldorf".

    Happens a lot more than we think about......
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    Okay, I'll buy that, but I still don't see how you get "Shah-day" out of Sade.
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    Quote Originally Posted by graeme View Post
    There is no proper spelling. The English language versions of Arab names that we see and use are phonetic approximations of the Arabic script.
    They are never exact since, all too often, foreign languages use sounds that we don't use in English. Basically, it sounds like "Osama/Usama" and this is the closest we have got to putting it on paper.

    A recent example I saw of this at work is for websites about my city.

    The correct spelling is Düsseldorf, but since most countries don't have the umlaut (two dots above a vowel) they have approximated it into English, thus the websites read "Duesseldorf".

    Happens a lot more than we think about......
    So, it's just a crapshoot?
    Today we'll use 'U', tomorrow we'll use 'O'?

    In the case, congrats to President Ubama
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    More about what translates and what doesn't, Duke, but I think I know u r kidding;
    Obama is his name-o.
    But take for example the 40 consonant and 15 vowel sounds (!) in Thai. I can
    remember as a kid trying to come up with new letters to our own alphabet,
    but could only create guteral or onomatopoeic noises for my new letters.
    That's kind of what you get in foreign scripts, and there is not always
    a correlation in our language and thus have to rely on phonetic devices
    as mentioned.

    Thai is a tonal language, and therefore hard as westerner and even harder
    to keep a straight face when you sound like Ozzy on Xanex. One of my bass
    player's names is Sum, for example. I think. I've never seen it written and
    even if I did, it would just be an approximation of the actual script. Because
    it's more like Saam or Suum, and unless you really hit the "uuuuhhhh"
    part right, it's not really accurate. Conversely 'suay' can either mean
    unlucky or beautiful depending on the accent. And you will never, ever
    see anything in English written the same way twice.
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    It's both.

    I've seen his name written "Usama" and "Osama" in both CIA and State Department press releases and white-papers.

    I'll ask my brother, he'd know but I suspect it's all in how you translate their alphabet.

    Just like Quatar is pronounced "Kh-atar" (like guitar) but some people pronounce it "Kutter", like gutter. Quatar is spelled with the Arabic letter 'Kha" which is close to the letter Q.

    Anyway, soon his name will be "Worm Food".
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    Quote Originally Posted by VanHalenRules View Post
    As long as we're at it, can we get a ruling on the spelling of Momar Khadafi?
    I noticed you didn't mind using the altenate spelling in the "time for a game" thread.

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    Osama.......John
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    I've literally never seen it spelled Usama anywhere except by Fox News.
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    I think you mean 'Fux' News.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mistere View Post
    I think you mean 'Fux' News.
    Oh give it up already.
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