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    UK Sperm Banks May Need Bailout

    U.K. Facing Sperm Donor Shortage

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/...n4597958.shtml



    Nov. 13, 2008


    Britain is facing a sperm donor shortage after reversing confidentiality laws and limiting the number of women who can use sperm from one donor, fertility experts warned Wednesday.

    Britain in 2005 changed the law protecting anonymous sperm donors and allowed children to learn the identity of donor fathers - one reason, fertility experts say, there are fewer donors now.

    "The only countries that seem to have enough sperm are those that pay - like the U.S. and Spain - or the countries that retain anonymity," said Allan Pacey, a member of the British Fertility Society that warned of the shortage in the British Medical Journal.

    "In the countries that have removed anonymity ... there seems to be a problem," he said.

    In 1991, Britain logged 503 sperm donors, according to figures from the Human Fertilisation and Embryology Authority. In 2000, there were 325, and in 2006 - the year after the law was changed - the number dropped to 307.

    Experts say 500 donors a year are needed to cope with the number of couples needing donor insemination in Britain.

    Dutch authorities have also put out calls to encourage sperm donors after scrapping anonymity for donors in 2004.

    "There is a shortage of sperm donors. This is because of the new laws that make the anonymous donation of sperm impossible," the University of Amsterdam's Fertility Clinic of the Academic Medical Center said on its Web site.

    Usage limits could also affect availability.

    In Britain, only 10 babies can result from one donor - a limit some have called arbitrary. The Dutch allow one donor to supply sperm to 25 women.

    The United States does not cap sperm donations at all, according to Eleanor Nicoll, spokeswoman for the American Society for Reproductive Medicine. However, the group suggests that a single donor be limited to no more than 25 births in a population of 800,000 to avoid having siblings from the same sperm donor having children together.

    In France, sperm donation is anonymous and the government covers donors' expenses but the country still faces a sperm shortage. France registered 248 sperm donors in 2006, according to the country's Agency of Biomedicine - a level an official there said was not enough to supply demand.

    Unlike Britain, U.S. donors have the option of remaining anonymous, said Dr. Robert Visscher, former executive director of the American Society of Reproductive Medicine.

    "I don't think we are having a problem with adequate numbers of donors at this time, primarily because we don't have that regulation," he said.

    Mark Jackson, 40, decided to donate in 2005, even after Britain's government amended the donor law.

    "To worry that someone might come and see you, that something might happen? That's a long way in the future," said Jackson. "I thought maybe I (could) do something to make a difference."

    Olivia Montuschi, co-founder of the Donor Conception Network, said changing the confidentiality law was important for the donors' children but shouldn't prevent men from being willing to help.

    "What is needed is someone who has the maturity to understand the importance of what they're doing for the future, and the impact that might have on anyone who's conceived," said Montuschi, whose children were conceived using donor sperm. "We are not talking about a fatherhood role."

    Although sperm donations from other countries are allowed in Britain, clinics cannot pay donors and donations from abroad are not enough to cope with the shortage, said Pacey, who runs a fertility clinic in Sheffield, 165 kilometers (265 miles) from London.

    "Once upon a time ... we had hundreds and hundreds of people phoning up every year," he said. "Now, 20 a year? Not in any great numbers."

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Rover View Post
    The United States does not cap sperm donations at all, according to Eleanor Nicoll, spokeswoman for the American Society for Reproductive Medicine. However, the group suggests that a single donor be limited to no more than 25 births in a population of 800,000 to avoid having siblings from the same sperm donor having children together.
    Now there is an angle that I haven't thought of before!!!
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    Now there is an angle that I haven't thought of before!!!
    a friend of mine was experiencing fertility problems and was faced with choosing a donor....she clued me in on the process and showed me some websites

    the donor clinics have websites that you can log onto and research donors kind of like looking for used cars, or puppies at petfinders.

    you input what characteristics are important to you, (education, race, hobbies such as musical ability or athletics) and a list comes up for you. You find out their age at donation, occupation, etc...SOme donors have narratives that tell you why they donated and some even have recordings where you can hear them tell a story from their childhood etc.

    some donor clinics even have a price structure for the most accomplished donors, down to your everyday joe

    .....but here's what I found really creepy...

    DISCOUNT SPERM.....yep some donors have very few samples left in the bank and so if you want to have siblings from the same donor you are limited....so they have a clearance sale.....no kidding, I was stunned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jetguy5150 View Post
    Now there is an angle that I haven't thought of before!!!

    Now that was never a problem in Arkansas.....

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    DISCOUNT SPERM.....yep some donors have very few samples left in the bank and so if you want to have siblings from the same donor you are limited....so they have a clearance sale.....no kidding, I was stunned.
    Wow!!! And yet ANOTHER angle I never thought about. If you want more than one child then you could get the sperm from the same donor!!! I guess I haven't put too much thought into this topic.

    The whole discount sperm thing is a bit crazy!!!! When I first read "Discount Sperm" I thought it was going to be the sperm of some less desirable donors like hobos etc.
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    Discount sperm...now Ive heard it all!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisTheEdHead View Post
    Discount sperm...now Ive heard it all!!

    "Here at Jizz-O-Rama, we are dedicated to passing the savings on to you!! How do we do it? VOLUME!! "
    "Cum on down and check out our vast selection."
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    This is something perhaps only Central Floridians could love, but I'd just love to see the folks from Appliance Direct branch out into sprem banks. The main spokesman is this Asian guy, and everything is "in the box". So it could go:

    "Brand new, David Crosby, drug free - in the tube!"
    "Just acquired, Clay Aiken, testosterone deficient - in the tube!"
    "If you didn't buy from Sperm Direct" *slaps giant testtube* "you paid too much!"

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    First the financial institutions are in trouble, now the sperm banks need a bailout. Where do I sign up? How much $ will I get for each deposit? Is the deposits guaranteed by the FDIC? LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisTheEdHead View Post
    Discount sperm...now Ive heard it all!!

    "Here at Jizz-O-Rama, we are dedicated to passing the savings on to you!! How do we do it? VOLUME!! "

    Here's the deal..... better candidates (the more attractive educated and accomplished donors,) goes for more money.

    "Doctorate" sperm goes for $435 for a standard vial and $540 for a "washed vial"

    Regular sperm goes for $340 and $440 a vial

    while "family solutions" sperm goes for $185 a vial.... family solutions is the "discount economy brand sperm"


    times are tough guys, so get busy, the christmas season is "at hand"

    and not to insult those who need this medical intervention but the process is a lot like picking out a puppy at perfinders...here is one banks "shopping cart" page.

    http://www.fairfaxcryobank.com/cryo/...art/search.cfm

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    Quote Originally Posted by jetguy5150 View Post
    Wow!!! If you want more than one child then you could get the sperm from the same donor!!! I guess I haven't put too much thought into this topic.
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    Is it just me, or do the words "Sperm Bank" and "Bail Out" together have a comical if not slightly gross imagery behind them?

    Sounds like a bukkake of epic stature!
    She looks so $#@!'n good ,so sexy and so frail....Somethin's got the bite on me, I'm goin' straight to Hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLEEPER5150 View Post
    Is it just me, or do the words "Sperm Bank" and "Bail Out" together have a comical if not slightly gross imagery behind them?

    Sounds like a bukkake of epic stature!

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