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  • Floater with trem block option

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    Default Floyd rose -To Float or Not to Float !!

    I have been curious as to the number of people who prefer a floating floyd or fixed. It is my perception that after talking to a lot of players over the years and cruising forums that most people prefer flat mount floyds. I was talking to a guy that I have set up a lot of my guitars, who said that oddly enough most of his jobs over the yeas have been floating floyds ! I was a little shocked.
    The guitars that I have been building have been all surface mounted, but if the demand was there I would do floaters too. If they are built right they will stay in tune. I have found that seems to be the biggest fear of floaters for people so they play it safe. that is my impression anyways. If you look at players like satriani and others they get along fine with a floater. And of course there are very good trem blocks available now too. I thought it would be interesting to run a poll !

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    I went with float with the block option.
    I., like you, mostly have worked on non floats. But, when set up right with a GOOD Floyd, floaters offer up so much more diversity.
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    I have had them both ways. I like non-floating. It will stay in tune way better and you wont break as many strings (pulling up on the arm), and you will get more sustain and tone.

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    A fully intonated and tuned Floyd is a thing to marvel. At least in my opinion. I'm amazed at how many folks don't feel comfortable using/working on a Floyd. Once you understand the push/pull relationship between the strings and springs, etc. it's amazingly effective.

    I know there are others that disagree, but when it's working, its a thing to behold.

    As for me personally, I tend to setup more guitars with floating trems because that's what the general public seems to buy. This may only be true due to the availability of manufactured guitars with recessed Floyd's, but it's what's most common at my shop.

    The flush mount's have only popped up when I have sold an EBMM or someone is doing a new body etc.

    I prefer both equally. Each style has it's own benefits. I use a trem setter to help offset broken strings etc.

    That's it on my end.
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    Overall stability, tuning stability if you break a string, bridge-to-body contact, no excessaive tuning and tuning and tuning (because the Floyd moves a little every time you change the tension on a tuner), easier setups, and cool options like D-Tunas... these are a few of the many reasons why I prefer a flush Floyd trem. A few months back I pulled out the old Ibanez R540 and did a restring and setup on it and was quickly reminded of why I don't like floating trems.

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    Having done both floating and flush guitars, I really have to say I like flush a LOT better. It does function a little better for my playing style (of abusing the bar for screaming EVH type divebombs, etc. ) than a floater, but not much -- it is just a bit easier to maintain (for me at least). However, the real advantage of a flush floyd, and the area where it is really way better than a floater is the tone. So much tone gets lost when the only place your bridge touches the guitar body is on 2 pivot points that are a fraction of a milimeter of contact area, and then thru 2 or 3 springs that aren't even solid. Having the full back end of the floyd sitting right on the guitar body wood really does transfer vibrations better -- you can feel it just by holding on to a flushmount floyd guitar behind the bridge, and then comparing that to a floater.

    I know a lot of guys swear by floating trems, and that's great, but having experimented with both, I have actually converted the floaters I originally made to flush mounts by putting 2 screws under the floyd for the back of it to rest on. I don't get the same quality tone by doing this, but at least I get some vibration transfer to the body...

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    I say let er float.

    of course everyone knows im a vai fan, so no surprise.

    I have used floating trems for 20 years and still love them, you just need a back up guitar you can change to REALLY fast if you break a string
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    well, how good of a player are you? i guess we can all list the technical pros/cons but at the end of the day are you good enough to use a floating floyd well?

    i just had to accept one day that i'm not really good enough to use a floating properly to get any benefit out of it.

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    Personal preference: Flush Floyd (or better yet: stop-tail!) in my main guitar, and floating-Floyd in my "stunt" guitars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lil'devil View Post
    well, how good of a player are you? i guess we can all list the technical pros/cons but at the end of the day are you good enough to use a floating floyd well?

    i just had to accept one day that i'm not really good enough to use a floating properly to get any benefit out of it.
    I've got to agree with you, my '85 Baretta was of course a floater and a project I built was originally set up as a floater but I just had to admit that I'm just too heavy handed with my right hand.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Majestic View Post
    Personal preference: Flush Floyd (or better yet: stop-tail!) in my main guitar, and floating-Floyd in my "stunt" guitars.
    Indeed. For maximum sustain and harmonics there is nothing like a hard tail or string-thru design.

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    Every guitar I own has a floating floyd. I understand alot of folks worry about tuning and strings breaking but to be honest I don't see it, sometimes I won't tune a guitar for 3 or 4 months and I still play the hell out of them. But these are original floyds of course.

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    i have guitars with both floater and non floaters and if i'm 100% honest the one i prefer most is....the old fender style! its more a feel thing for me personaly.
    but when it comes to floyds then i'm a non-floater kind of guy, but ofcourse when we play vai/satch stuff then i like to pull out a floater.
    again if i'm honest i've never really had many issues with tuning/intonation with them but i do set them up regularly, i do however notice big changes with sustain harmonics and overal tone, which usually requires some amp/effect alterations to compensate which is a pain in the arse onstage.
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    Flush it.

    The style pulling up on the bar isn't something I ever do, so flush is the way I go and I like not having to worry about broken strings putting me out of tune.

    All my Floyds are flush mounted except one guitar, and I have a trem block on my main Warmoth strat...but I consider that one flush mounted because basically it is. And it would be but the trem block works fine.
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    can someone define exactly what a "flush floyd" is? i'm a semi-pro player and have never heard the term...

    assuming it means you put a piece of wood or something behind the tremelo so that you can bend down but not up, then that is the best way to go.

    and no one has mentioned one of the most important points so far, which is that when you bend one string up on the fretboard, all the other strings stay in tune. on a floating floyd all the other ones go a little flat if you bend one string.
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