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    Two Russian strategic bombers landed in Venezuela on Wednesday as part of military maneuvers, the government said, announcing an unprecendented deployment to a new ally at a time when both nations are involved in tense relations with the U.S.



    Russia's Defense Ministry said the two Tupelov-160 Blackjack Bombers flew to Venezuela on a training mission. It said in a statement carried by the Russian news wires that the planes will conduct training flights over neutral waters over the next few days before heading back to Russia.

    It was not immediately known whether the bombers were armed.

    Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez — an unbridled critic of American foreign policy — said Wednesday the bombers were welcome in Venezuela, and that he hopes to "fly one of those things" himself.

    Chavez called the Russian planes' visit part of a move toward a "pluri-polar world" — a reference to moving away from U.S. dominance. "The Yankee hegemony is finished," Chavez said in a televised speech.

    Also Wednesday, NATO said it ended a routine exercise by four naval ships in the Black Sea. Russia had denounced the exercise as part of a Western military buildup sparked by the Georgia conflict.

    The alliance said the four ships — U.S. frigate USS Taylor and three similar vessels from Spain, Germany and Poland — were moving back to the Mediterranean Sea after the 18-day mission.

    In Moscow, Defense Ministry spokesman Alexander Drobyshevsky refused to say how long the Venezuela deployment will last or say whether the planes carried any weapons.

    The military said NATO fighters escorted the two Russian bombers on their way to Venezuela.

    The apparently retaliatory move follows the U.S. deployment of warships to deliver aid to the former Soviet nation of Georgia, barely a month after Russian armor and aircraft crushed the Georgian military in a five-day war.

    Earlier this week, Russia said it will send a naval squadron and long-range patrol planes to Venezuela in November for a joint military exercise in the Caribbean.

    The deployment of planes will be certain to anger Washington. Relations between the U.S. and Russia have been badly strained by the short war last month between Russia and U.S.-allied Georgia.
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    Didn't I say that Russia will use Venezuela for a showcase of it's military power? Oh yes, I did.

    About time I started to learn Spanish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WinterlessIceness View Post
    Didn't I say that Russia will use Venezuela for a showcase of it's military power? Oh yes, I did.

    About time I started to learn Spanish.
    Yep. And it's exactly what I would have done as Russian pres after the build up in the Black sea.

    "You can get close to us but we can get close to you too" etc.

    Let's hope cool heads prevail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by graeme View Post
    Yep. And it's exactly what I would have done as Russian pres after the build up in the Black sea.

    "You can get close to us but we can get close to you too" etc.

    Let's hope cool heads prevail.
    And, here in the UK out gov't had already decided to switch all the traffic lights off after midnight coz the council tax is astronomical (I have to pay 130 quid every month, holy fucking shit anyone?) . Imagine if Russia decides to stop providing us with energy altogether?

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    CARACAS, Venezuela - President Hugo Chavez ordered the U.S. ambassador to leave Venezuela in 72 hours and said he was immediately withdrawing his ambassador from Washington.

    Chavez said Thursday night that U.S. Ambassador Patrick Duddy is no longer welcome, just as his close ally Bolivia expelled the American envoy from La Paz a day earlier.

    "They're trying to do here what they were doing in Bolivia," Chavez said, accusing Washington of trying to oust him.

    "That's enough ... from you, Yankees," he said during a televised rally, using an expletive.

    The socialist leader said Venezuela's ambassador to Washington, Bernardo Alvarez, would return to the U.S. "when there's a new government in the United States."

    The move by Chavez brings relations with Washington to a new low and raises questions about whether the diplomatic clash could hurt trade. Venezuela is the fourth-largest oil supplier to the United States, and Chavez threatened on Thursday to cut off crude shipments "if there's any aggression against Venezuela."

    He has made similar threats in the past, but the United States is his No. 1 oil client and taking such an action would debilitate his government financially.

    Chavez, long at odds with Washington, appeared to leave open the door for restoring full relations once President George W. Bush's successor is in the White House.

    "Hopefully, sooner than later, (the U.S.) will have a government that respects the peoples and the governments of Latin America," Chavez said.

    Chavez warned last month that Duddy could soon be "packing his bags" after the diplomat lamented that U.S. and Venezuelan officials have not been cooperating in the war on drugs.

    Duddy has said that deteriorating diplomatic relations between Caracas and Washington were giving drug smugglers the upper hand.

    Chavez announced the decision to oust Duddy hours after saying his government had detained a group of alleged conspirators in a plot to overthrow him. He accused the group of current and former military officers of trying to assassinate him with backing from the United States.

    U.S. officials have repeatedly denied Chavez's accusations of backing plots against him.

    Asked about Chavez's remarks, U.S. Embassy spokeswoman Jennifer Rahimi said: "We saw the speech and we're investigating, but we haven't seen anything official."

    Tensions between Venezuela and the U.S. grew this week after two Russian strategic bombers were deployed to the country at Chavez's invitation.

    "The presence of those Russian planes in Venezuela is a warning," Chavez said. "There's nothing better to keep yourself from being attacked than to dissuade."

    The president said that behind the conspiracy to overthrow him were "the same coup-plotters" who masterminded a failed 2002 coup — which he also blamed on the Bush administration.

    Chavez ordered an investigation of the alleged plot, which he said involved an active vice admiral and other former military officers. He said his intelligence services had been "following this for some time."

    Military prosecutors were questioning several officers about their alleged involvement, Defense Minister Gen. Gustavo Rangel Briceno said.

    Chavez ally Mario Silva, who hosts a program on state television, first played recordings of the purported coup plotters' phone conversations late Wednesday. It was unclear when they were recorded.

    In one, a voice identified as an ex-officer said "we're going to take" the presidential palace. In another, a voice identified as retired air force Gen. Eduardo Baez Torrealba said "there is a pilot who has 1,000 hours in an F-16" — allegedly to be used in the plot.

    Chavez said the authorities have known for some time that the conspirators were "looking for ground-to-air missiles ... to try to blow up the presidential plane ... or bomb the (presidential) palace with a plane."
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    Quote Originally Posted by WinterlessIceness View Post

    About time I started to learn Spanish.
    cool!! heres your first lesson:


    chinga te, cabron!!

    just kiddin, mish. havin some fun with ya.

    but in case you wanna say it to your friends, its pronounce chinga-tay-cavron

    it means fuck you, dude!
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    Quote Originally Posted by sisca View Post
    cool!! heres your first lesson:


    chinga te, cabron!!

    just kiddin, mish. havin some fun with ya.

    but in case you wanna say it to your friends, its pronounce chinga-tay-cavron

    it means fuck you, dude!

    Chupame la pija, cabron!

    Yeah, I kind-of started with swear words myself.

    Didn't know what was 'dude' in spanish, thanks for that

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    Quote Originally Posted by WinterlessIceness View Post
    And, here in the UK out gov't had already decided to switch all the traffic lights off after midnight coz the council tax is astronomical (I have to pay 130 quid every month, holy fucking shit anyone?) . Imagine if Russia decides to stop providing us with energy altogether?
    And once again, I feel good about my decision to leave the United Shitdom.

    That measure is like creating an unofficial curfew because no one is going to dare leave their house after midnight from now on. Jesus, I thought Blair was bad and a wanker but the legacy he has left is more akin to a viking pillager than a Prime minister.

    Just watch as the far right begins to take power after crime spirals out of control due to massive inflation and unemployment.

    Anybody seen "V for vendetta"?

    England is fucked. Last one to leave, please turn out the lights (if they are still working)
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