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    Bartering sex for stuff or services

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    By Michelle Goodman

    (LifeWire) -- While she was studying in Brazil during college, the one thing Stephanie Gerson longed to do before leaving was spend time in the thick of the Amazon rain forest. Unfortunately, she couldn't find a tour that would take her past the forest's edge.

    So, when a college-aged busboy at a resort she was visiting began flirting with her, she asked him if he thought a tourist could survive alone in the jungle.

    "He laughed and told me I was nuts," says Gerson, 27, who works part-time in online marketing for a chocolate company in San Francisco.

    Then he told her that he'd grown up in the jungle in a nearby indigenous community. That was all Gerson needed to hear. Although she wasn't attracted to the guy, Gerson flirted right back in the hopes that he would be her jungle tour guide. It worked. The busboy wormed his way out of work, and the two headed into the rain forest.

    "It was amazing," Gerson says of her adventure in 2000. "We built our homes out of palm leaves, I saw animals I'd never seen before, he taught me the medicinal properties of all the plants, we picked fruit off the trees, we swam with and ate piranhas. And, of course, we had sex ... for almost two weeks."

    Body currency system

    Gerson never felt sleazy or uncomfortable with her unspoken arrangement with the busboy.

    "It was a good barter both ways," she says. "I got to stay in the jungle, and he got to have sex with a cute, young American girl."

    Such trades aren't so unusual. Throughout history, humans have used their bodies to get what they want -- from ancient Egyptian ruler Cleopatra, who cemented her power through liaisons with Roman rulers Julius Caesar and Mark Antony, to the man and woman who were arrested at a Fort Wright, Kentucky, motel in late June for allegedly swapping sex for gasoline. Regardless of our motivation, scientists say we're hardwired to use our bodies as a bargaining chip.

    A recent study of 475 University of Michigan undergraduates ages 17 to 26 found that 27 percent of the men and 14 percent of the women who weren't in a committed relationship had offered someone favors or gifts -- help prepping for a test, laundry washing, tickets to a college football game -- in exchange for sex. On the flip side, 5 percent of the men surveyed and 9 percent of the women said they'd attempted to trade sex for such freebies.

    And although they weren't hard up for resources, the students surveyed "recognized the value of this socioeconomic currency system," says Daniel Kruger, research scientist at the University of Michigan School of Public Health, who published his findings in the April issue of "Evolutionary Psychology."

    "It's more about getting what you want than getting what you need," he says. "Unless you think everyone needs a $200 Louis Vuitton bag."

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    But unattached coeds aren't the only ones who barter with their bodies. Some professionals will attest that their skills are, well, sexy.

    "Women are turned on just by the simple idea of their guy getting off his ass and doing something for them," says Rocky Fino, author of "Will Cook for Sex: A Guy's Guide to Cooking."

    It works both ways, he adds.

    "Give it to me first thing in the morning, and I'll play [handyman] all day," says Fino, a 39-year-old father of two and part-time construction worker.

    Ben Corbett, a 39-year-old contractor from Boulder, Colorado, credits his tool belt with prompting the barrage of come-ons he fields from female clients -- most of them married -- on a regular basis.

    "It starts with the flirting, and it just progresses," says Corbett, who has run a construction and remodeling business for 20 years. "They'll touch my hand, and there's all this physical contact. Or they'll run around in their pajamas."

    "Once," he says, "I was painting the hallway right outside a client's bedroom, and she was lying on her bed like a girl at a slumber party with her legs up and her arms crossed and her head resting on them, asking me if I had a girlfriend.

    "It's all about the fantasy of being taken by the rough-hewn construction guy," muses Corbett, who, despite the temptation, has avoided getting sexually involved with his clientele for fear of jeopardizing his business.

    It's the biology, stupid

    Call it crass, sexist or gender stereotyping all you want, but there are thousands of years of biological programming at work here, says Dr. Chris Fariello, director of the Institute for Sex Therapy at the Council for Relationships, a nonprofit relationship-counseling group based in Philadelphia.

    Plain and simple, a partner who provides more resources -- wealth, shelter, home repairs -- is seen as more attractive and stands to reap more sexual rewards.

    Or, as Fariello puts it, "I don't get anybody in my office who says, 'My husband sits on the couch all day and eats bonbons, and I want to have sex with him all the time.'"
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    There is also a sick side to this...

    FBI: Couple offered sex with girl, 5, for used car

    SAN ANTONIO - A San Antonio couple is accused of trying to trying to trade sex with the woman's 5-year-old daughter for an apartment, a used car and child care for her 10-month old daughter.

    Jennifer Richards, 25, and her married boyfriend, Sean Michael Block, 40, appeared before U.S. Magistrate Judge Nancy Stein Nowak on Friday. Richards is charged with using interstate facilities to transmit information about a minor. Block is charged with distributing child pornography.

    Nowak ordered Block held. Richards' detention hearing was delayed until Tuesday, the San Antonio Express-News reported Sunday.

    According to an affidavit unsealed last Tuesday, the investigation began when an informant told the FBI about a text message allegedly sent by Block reading: ``Nice piece 5 yrs old belongs to my gf and she wants to sell it.''

    Richards and Block crafted a deal that, in addition to the apartment and used car, included child care for Richards' 10-month-old daughter, whose sexual service the couple intended to sell later, Rex Miller, the FBI's lead agent on the case, testified.

    The couple had also hoped to blackmail the informant, Miller said.

    Richards ``was of the belief that these sexual interactions would be a positive experience for (her daughter) and that Richards would receive sexual gratification'' from watching, according to the affidavit.

    Authorities said both children are no longer in Richards' custody and that neither child was sold for sex.

    After reviewing computers the couple used and listening to taped conversations, Miller determined Block and Richards were making further plans to abduct, rape and ``carve up'' a teenage runaway.

    Block allegedly sent an e-mail with a link to a Russian child pornography site, according to the affidavit.

    Ronald Guyer, Block's lawyer, acknowledged the severity of the charges. But Guyer told the judge that there was no evidence that the behavior progressed beyond Block's fantasy.

    ``There has been no action on his part,'' Guyer told Nowak.

    Richard's attorney did not immediately return a call or e-mail left Sunday by The Associated Press seeking comment.

    The couple worked at the Cheesecake Factory at North Star Mall, where he was a bartender and she was a waitress.

    Court records show that Block's now-estranged wife Sarah Block filed for a protective order earlier this week on behalf of the couple's 14-month-old child. Her lawyer said she filed for divorce Friday.


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    Quote Originally Posted by chefcraig View Post

    Richards ``was of the belief that these sexual interactions would be a positive experience for (her daughter) and that Richards would receive sexual gratification'' from watching, according to the affidavit.



    After reviewing computers the couple used and listening to taped conversations, Miller determined Block and Richards were making further plans to abduct, rape and ``carve up'' a teenage runaway.
    Ummmmmmm..........


    Sexual interactions would be a positive experience.....

    In what world would someone think this would be beneficial to a 5 year old?
    I guess they were laying the groundwork for an insanity defense.


    The teenage runaway part can only help that cause.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Filthy 150 View Post
    Gee...glad to know they are from Texas.
    It just makes me giddy with pride.

    Well, Florida does not hold a complete monopoly on nitwits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VanHalenRules View Post
    Well, Florida does not hold a complete monopoly on nitwits.

    Give it a couple days. No doubt a Florida connection will become apparent.
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    Bartering was a really good thing when I was a teenager and working at the local roller rink. Want in and have no money? Or, better yet, want to hoof it or get a "ride" home? Strangely enough, there was one girl who always seemed to "miss" her ride home with her friends at the end of the night. Never really went out with her, but DAMN!

    Yeah, I know, I was a bastard when I was a teenager, but, then again, what teenage guy wasn't constantly horned up and ready to get wet? Gas, grass or ass, nobody rode for free.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VanHalenRules View Post

    Yeah, I know, I was a bastard when I was a teenager, but, then again, what teenage guy wasn't constantly horned up and ready to get wet? Gas, grass or ass, nobody rode for free.
    I see a great song coming from this quote of yours VHR!!!

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    hmmmmmm so basically , you can be a fat , ugly , obnoxious douche nozzle , but if you make alot of money women find you irresistable because they want to be provided for ?

    well that sheds new light on the guys who are struggling to make ends meet because of the shitty economy , even though they have 2 degrees.

    so in a nut shell i should just lie and say im a stockbroker or investment accountant and they ll come a runnin?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick S View Post
    hmmmmmm so basically , you can be a fat , ugly , obnoxious douche nozzle , but if you make alot of money women find you irresistable because they want to be provided for ?

    well that sheds new light on the guys who are struggling to make ends meet because of the shitty economy , even though they have 2 degrees.

    so in a nut shell i should just lie and say im a stockbroker or investment accountant and they ll come a runnin?
    Dude, that only works up to the point when you got to cough up some "jewelry, a trip, clothing, dinners out , ect..." BUT at that point, well it may have been worth it
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    well i learned that when you cant ALWAYS cough up that stuff(even though its breaking your bank account) , you ll be upgraded to someone who can.

    the looks department i wont even get into(which is why i said ugly , obnoxious , dooshnozzle , but makes more money than i did)

    fuck that , let someone buy me clothes and take me on vacation while i stash my money in a savings account for once.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick S View Post

    fuck that , let someone buy me clothes and take me on vacation while i stash my money in a savings account for once.
    Well seeing as how you aren't fat or ugly. I think you'd be able to do just such a thing!!!

    Seems that most relationships don't last when women are gold digging - just me, I look for some substance.
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    thing is i dont really want someone buying me a bunch of stuff, just wanted them to be equal sometimes.


    blah , what it boils down to is me making the wrong choice in a woman who expected to have anything relationship related payed for by me just because its what men do. and not being someone who supported me and told me to stick it out and get that job i went to college several years for.

    but im getting off topic , dont want you to think im arguing with you , all the chicks that post on this board are really awesome , pretty , and down to earth.

    btw thanks for the compliments.
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    I know what you mean Rick... I do really. I was a lot like "those" women a long time ago. It was not the right way to think. I was also immature and had very low self esteem. I know now that relationships are 100% give ....and 100% give all the time. It's the reason my marriage survives & thrives. I can't expect it to be all about me...

    I can't tell you how many times I talk to my girls about "choices" and how they direct your life as well as alter it. Making choices should be a slow deliberate action. Especially a permanent choice like marriage and kids....

    Life isn't fair or easy....it's worth the ride though

    Oh to get a do over sometimes!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by EVHgirl in Va View Post
    Oh to get a do over sometimes!!!!!
    If I could get a do-over for my life from 19-23 I would have never dealt with the nasty little bitch I nearly married. Then again, as Mrs VHR keeps telling me, it's that sort of BS that tempers us to who we become later, and I believe I am a better person now because of that ordeal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VanHalenRules View Post
    If I could get a do-over for my life from 19-23 I would have never dealt with the nasty little bitch I nearly married. Then again, as Mrs VHR keeps telling me, it's that sort of BS that tempers us to who we become later, and I believe I am a better person now because of that ordeal.
    I don't know if I'd ax anyone I dated, they taught me some very hard - very worthy lessons (like when you see crazy coming...cross that Damn street girl!!!) but some of the educational choices I made, some of the personal choices I made...I'd like another shot.

    I have no complaints about my life....it's ever evolving and I like what each turn shows me.... getting here could have been easier had I made a few "better" choices.

    (although I would still have lied my ass off about going to each and every VH concert...did I tell y'all that my friends and I drove to Atlanta to see VH at one point - no one in the car had a drivers license --- yep 6 girls 2 guys no seat belt, beer aboard, drove 4.5 hrs to see a VH concert we were 14 yrs old and under! My mom's friend was in Mexico, we spent the night with her so she wouldn't be alone? HAHAHA!!!!)

    See what I mean about some of the dumb ass choices I made???? It just got more brazen the older I got.
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