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    Hi guys. Well....last night I decided it was finally time to go to the new Long and McQuade store in my area and take a look see. I had a thought about picking up a Tele after playing a couple. Real nice finishes and great tone, but then across the floor I see the Gibson display wall. AAAArrrrrrgh....All right...Got to check it out. You guys no my feelings on Gibson as of late. Well a few surprises,.Some good, some bad. The first Surprise was when I went to pick up a Paul I thought I did'nt know my own strength! Set it down, pick up a Standard. WTF? Then the guy comes over and says "They are all chambered or relieved now" Huh? Ok. I must say though my favorite of the Pauls was probably the least traditional. It was an unstained all Swamp ash model. This guitar was intoxicating soundwise. The most lively of any Les Paul Gibson or otherwise Ive ever played. The harmonics lept off the fingerboard. I was that close to buying it but then.......The gibson curse strikes. I let the neck slip through my hand a little while getting up and Ouch! A fret wire cuts my palm wide open Jeez! The guy comes over kinda sorry and grabs me a tissue and a bandaid! Kinda funny situation. Putting it back the guy notices something i missed looking it over too. It was missing two of the three screws on the selector cover. I mean not even drilled! Well the fret I could fix and the screws I could put in but the principal of the matter took over, and I could not justify risking some other oversight on a five o clock special. Look at another Studio, but it is missing a pickup ring screw, and the pickguard is'nt even butted up to the rings properly, I mean like an ugly uneven 1/8" of an inch where it screws in by the neck ring. But then fait interveans and i find a pretty little SG! Price was more than right...$800 bones. I love these guitars. Had a '72 tobacco mat finish in school. great guitar. Anyway, this one played like a dream. Jammed on it for a good 1/2 hr. And dialed in that Allman brothers tone in seconds. Great action nice finish. It's Worn Cherry. I'm not big on all these "new/vintage" or reliced finishes, but I've known lots of SG's with a similar finish before it was popular. Anyway some pics below. I restrung and intonated it this morning, and actually wrote a few new riffs on it today.




    She looks so $#@!'n good ,so sexy and so frail....Somethin's got the bite on me, I'm goin' straight to Hell.

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    Yum. Nice score.
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    Hehe. I know SG's ar'ent for everyone, but I see them as kinda like a bare bones tool. They get the job done with no extra frills. They are very nicely balanced, with such east acces to the upper registers compered to all the other "traditional designs. I sounds just awesome! iv'e tried it on three of my setups. My vintage Superlead. Angus comes to mind, My 5150, what can I say?, It's what you'd expect. And my Zoom direct setup through an old Pignose. It sounds quite cool actually through that. Kinda like the whole Derek and the Dominos vibe. My fingers are pretty raw I must say.Iv'e been playing it alllll day except for the post. It's real sweet. Very pleasantly surprised.
    She looks so $#@!'n good ,so sexy and so frail....Somethin's got the bite on me, I'm goin' straight to Hell.

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    By the way... sorry for the extreme closeups! They were kind of unintentional. I was trying to show the beautiful grain. it's a three piece body, but very well grain matched. That's the Gibson I remember!
    She looks so $#@!'n good ,so sexy and so frail....Somethin's got the bite on me, I'm goin' straight to Hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLEEPER5150 View Post
    By the way... sorry for the extreme closeups! They were kind of unintentional. I was trying to show the beautiful grain. it's a three piece body, but very well grain matched. That's the Gibson I remember!

    It doesn't even look like it needs a refret

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    Quote Originally Posted by bunnyman View Post
    It doesn't even look like it needs a refret
    Yeah! Well not yet at least. I do have a little buzz at the 12th. fret on the A string most notably. It's most notable at the 5th. thru 7th. frets on the A string. The neck has the right amount of relief. Oh well. I'm sure with a few more weeks of playing it will break in. Just a couple of high spots. it could stand a touch higher action i guess. i just like it Loooowwww. I'm just so used to my old guitars which at minimum are about twenty+ years old. No fret buzz on those babies.
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    My only suggestion besides house breaking yourself (notice the papers on the floor in the first picture!) is swapping out the 500t and 498r pickups for a set of burstbuckers. The Burstbucker pro or Burstburker 3 is a great pickup for the bridge and the Burstbucker 1 or 2 work great in the neck. Great replacement pickups from a "marginally acceptable" manufacturer.

    Great find by the way. Here's hoping the hand heals up and doesn't affect your playing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by A&Z Guitar Repair View Post
    My only suggestion besides house breaking yourself (notice the papers on the floor in the first picture!) is swapping out the 500t and 498r pickups for a set of burstbuckers. The Burstbucker pro or Burstburker 3 is a great pickup for the bridge and the Burstbucker 1 or 2 work great in the neck. Great replacement pickups from a "marginally acceptable" manufacturer.

    Great find by the way. Here's hoping the hand heals up and doesn't affect your playing!

    Congrats on the guitar.

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    Thanks man! Yeah we're training a puppy! The guitar came housebroken! I was thinking about that. The Burstbuckers sound great. I gotta say though, these sound pretty for stock. I think its just that the SG naturally has gobs of sustain. I tried to get a pic of my hand. No lie, it's a two inch cut and fairly deep. It is'nt the end of the world but i've never been actually cut from an instrument before! Bled quite a bit for a couple minutes though.
    She looks so $#@!'n good ,so sexy and so frail....Somethin's got the bite on me, I'm goin' straight to Hell.

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    So, is this one of the newer of the "worn" series then, Sleeper? I found I actually liked the finish on them better because the neck wasn't high gloss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndrewThomas.net View Post
    So, is this one of the newer of the "worn" series then, Sleeper? I found I actually liked the finish on them better because the neck wasn't high gloss.
    Yeah. That's right Andrew. I tried a glossy SG above it, but my hand always feels stuck on a glossy neck. That's why on all my strat style guitars, I usually hit 'em with fine steel wool or 400 wet/dry. I would'nt exactly call it a worn finish by any regard. I'm new to this "new old" stuff but to me it's absolutely the same as my '72 or my uncles '76. It's just stained cherry with a flat sealer from what I can tell. There was a worn 335 there as well for $2.500 but for that price I'd want a pristine finish on the body. I've really been enjoying this guitar. It begs to be played. I played for so many hours yesterday, my calouses are gone! Started up again this morning to build some new ones. Hehe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SLEEPER5150 View Post
    Yeah. That's right Andrew. I tried a glossy SG above it, but my hand always feels stuck on a glossy neck. That's why on all my strat style guitars, I usually hit 'em with fine steel wool or 400 wet/dry. I would'nt exactly call it a worn finish by any regard. I'm new to this "new old" stuff but to me it's absolutely the same as my '72 or my uncles '76. It's just stained cherry with a flat sealer from what I can tell. There was a worn 335 there as well for $2.500 but for that price I'd want a pristine finish on the body. I've really been enjoying this guitar. It begs to be played. I played for so many hours yesterday, my calouses are gone! Started up again this morning to build some new ones. Hehe.
    Sounds like you're having a good time with it!

    Yeah, I always thought "worn" was a bad term for those because they're really just more of a satin finish. They're cheaper to make that way, but it's by no means a cheap look.

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    i think everyone here knows my feelings about gibsons (old or new) esspecially the les paul, but i have to say ive always had a soft spot for the S.G. they always seem to have real nice necks.
    still way over priced though, but then again i think L.P's should retail for under £500 (they are afteral nothing new)....but i must say, you got a nice example there mate...so in the words of acdc....let there be rock!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SLEEPER5150 View Post
    Yeah! Well not yet at least. I do have a little buzz at the 12th. fret on the A string most notably. It's most notable at the 5th. thru 7th. frets on the A string. The neck has the right amount of relief. Oh well. I'm sure with a few more weeks of playing it will break in. Just a couple of high spots. it could stand a touch higher action i guess. i just like it Loooowwww.
    That would drive me NUTS, and yes, I would refret with my favourite frets (Dunlop 6000) if that were the case...

    My luthier gets my axes playing so well when he is done with them. He makes all of my modern Gibsons play "like buttah".

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndrewThomas.net View Post
    Sounds like you're having a good time with it!

    Yeah, I always thought "worn" was a bad term for those because they're really just more of a satin finish. They're cheaper to make that way, but it's by no means a cheap look.
    Me thinks there's not much grainfiller in those "worn" finishes.

    I make mine look a bit shinier by using 1000 grit sandpaper and 3M Finesse-It.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bunnyman View Post
    That would drive me NUTS, and yes, I would refret with my favourite frets (Dunlop 6000) if that were the case...

    My luthier gets my axes playing so well when he is done with them. He makes all of my modern Gibsons play "like buttah".
    It's extremely mild buzz and my action is real low. I hear it beacause I'm cursed with a very critical ear. I straightedged the neck and did the rock test under tention. I was wrong. It is just a little less finished on the 11th. fret on the bass side. You can see if you look real close that it is a bit more crowned that the treble side on that fret. it's gotten better since I've been playing that position hours on end with lots of bends and heavy handed vibrato. That fret is feeling a lot smoother now, and the buzz is less and less. Other than that one area, the other frets are nicely dressed and crowned. Alot of the Gibby Pauls on the wall had very flat frets and lacked any crown . Virtually no crown at all which can give weird overtones that almost make it sound quite dead. Playing a brand new guitar is kinda like breaking in a brand new engine. You gotta break 'em in first! Over the years, I've gotten pretty good at setting up guitars. The guitar came with .10's on it, and I've put my usual set of GHS .9's, wich has reduced the relief in the neck a little too. I'll let the guitar climatize for a few more days before I make any neck adjustments. The store I got it is climate, and humidity controlled, and the weather has been very humid lately, so I think patience will be the key. SG necks can be a little finicky.
    She looks so $#@!'n good ,so sexy and so frail....Somethin's got the bite on me, I'm goin' straight to Hell.

 

 

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