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    Default I need help recording drums

    I've got the mics, and the mixer, and the effects. the only thing is i don't have like a great EQ. All i have is the one on the mixer. What i'd like to know is what can i do to make the drums sound clearer? i guess thats the word im looking for. they sound like they are kinda behind something. i have like all the drums and cymbols miced. even if you have a good EQ, what settings would be the best? I'd appreciate any advice or input anyone has on this.
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    Well, first off,....I am a big fan of micing everything, but paying most attention to the room mics micing the whole sound of the drums. Make sure no rings from the heads. That doesn't mean put a roll of tape on all the drums and put a casino size rug in th bass drums . I have always liked the open sounding or Free drums sounds....without dampening the heads and whatnot. You'll figure it out. you have to. It's the only way you'll find the sound you want. New heads a must. Tune them properly. ROOM Levels rule.!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pranker5150 View Post
    I've got the mics, and the mixer, and the effects. the only thing is i don't have like a great EQ. All i have is the one on the mixer. What i'd like to know is what can i do to make the drums sound clearer? i guess thats the word im looking for. they sound like they are kinda behind something. i have like all the drums and cymbols miced. even if you have a good EQ, what settings would be the best? I'd appreciate any advice or input anyone has on this.
    Well there's yer problem! You gotta get the mice outa them! Just kidding! Can never resist a stupid joke. Seriously though, every mixers eq is different, but our technique was to always start with the eq flat and adjust in quarter turn increments in the direction you think it needs boost or cut. We usually started with the mid to get the right amount of scoop or presence then the high, and last the bass. Keep in mind that bringing the mics back a bit from the drums in itself can give more depth and definition. You'd be amazed how little eq is required with optimal mic placement. Our band ; we mic'd like crazy on the kit. Close and room mics, and even though our room was small it was amazing what was achieved, but we were able to scale back alot with a little more patience and attention to detail. For the skins we used sm57's and the symbals and hats were '58's. Good luck buddy.
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    What are you using for overhead mics? In addtion to your individual drum mics, you'll need a good condenser mic hovering about three to four feet above the entire set - preferebly two of them (one on each side). These will help provide the clarity and nuances that the drum mics won't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VanHalenRocks View Post
    What are you using for overhead mics? In addtion to your individual drum mics, you'll need a good condenser mic hovering about three to four feet above the entire set - preferebly two of them (one on each side). These will help provide the clarity and nuances that the drum mics won't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pranker5150 View Post
    I've got the mics, and the mixer, and the effects. the only thing is i don't have like a great EQ. All i have is the one on the mixer. What i'd like to know is what can i do to make the drums sound clearer? i guess thats the word im looking for. they sound like they are kinda behind something. i have like all the drums and cymbols miced. even if you have a good EQ, what settings would be the best? I'd appreciate any advice or input anyone has on this.


    Tell me what kind of gear you're using & maybe I can help...

    First of all, are you using gates??? Gates make all the difference in the world!

    Next, Mic placement & type of mics....

    Next, EQ settings.... are you using outboard gear, or EQ from your mixer???

    FX are ALWAYS last on the list!!!

    If you have the first 3 right, they'll sound great even without FX!!!

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    I don't do a ton of EQ when I record drums except on the kick drum and snare. (The kick usually requires some major low-mid roll off and high-mid boost, and the snare often needs some lows taken away along with a slight boost in the high-mids and highs.) I've had a tone of luck by putting a mic on every drum--two on the snare, though (top and bottom)--stereo overheads and stereo room mics. It's also very cool to experiment and put mics in various weird places around the kit or even in the next room. I often drop a pillow on the floor about three feet back from the kick and set some sort of simple mic like an AKG C1000 or even just an SM58 down on it (offers some nice balancing options on the kick and toms). If you're using an analog mixer or tube pre-amps, push your gains as hard as you can without distorting, and don't think too hard beyond that.

 

 

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