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    Regardless of the stupidity of some eg. David Ickes reptilians, I can quite happily waste an hour or two reading up on these things and who's to know, some don't seem so far fetched when you look back in history and see some of the stuff that has been pulled off and later admitted to.

    Might be a nice idea to post your faves and ideas.

    Moon landing: Haven't researched it much but I would like to have the crosshair anomolies in the photos explained to me.

    Illuminati : Devil worship sect? Don't think so, but rename it as the Bilderberg group and it makes a bit more sense.

    JFK : Oswald was that good? Needs to be more than one shooter unless he was able to suspend the laws of physics. That French assassin (?) is a likely candidate..

    Princess Diana : Paparrazzi turned the driver into a reckless accident waiting to happen. And then it did.

    911 : Don't believe the official version but that's not to say Cheney and co did it either. I'd love to understand why building 7 came down and the way it came down.

    RFK : Hasn't there been some new stuff on this recently. Seems likely the guy had been hypnotised in some way but not sure I get the bullet in the back when he was standing in front..

    Gulf of Tomkin : The more info that gets released about this, the fishier it seems to get.

    Elvis : Died on the toilet because he was a fat, bloated junkie

    Oil : We've started many problems or coups in the past to get to the black gold. Why should Iraq or Afghanistan be any different? Not really surprising in the least.

    Bin Laden dead : Yep. Long time ago

    Loads more but I'd love to hear people's ideas on these and others. There's so much info out there it's hard to get in depth with all of them, but I've put a fair bit of time into the oil thing, especially looking into the history of what the Brits and later, the CIA did in Iran in 1953 and why they seem to have become so hated again since 79.
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    Moon Landing: I know there's plenty who believe it never happened, yet these same people cannot explain to me how there is a mirror up there. Apollo 11 astronauts left an array of corner mirrors on the moon. A corner mirror is three mirrors arranged like a corner of a box, all at right angles to each other. Such a mirror reflects light directly back toward the source of the light. Scientists shine a laser at the moon, and measure the time it takes to reflect back. They can measure this time to within a tiny fraction of a second. So they deduce the distance to the moon (at any given time) to within a few inches.

    Gulf of Tonkin incident: Yep, I buy that the whole story released by the US is crap.
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    The biggest support that an actual moon landing occured is the acceptance of the former USSR on it. If they truly thought it was a hoax, they would have gone out of their way to disprove it happened. It would have been a huge PR stunt had they found out we filmed everything in a studio. I think somebody would have taken a picture of various moon landing sites to show that we had not landed there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by graeme View Post

    Elvis : Died on the toilet because he was a fat, bloated junkie
    Elvis is dead? I just saw him last weekend buying slim jims, twizzlers and yoo hoo at the Pit Stop!

    He paid for his grub, scratched his rear end (leather is hot and itchy y'all) and went off in the sunset.

    Shoot, I guess I'm not getting that cadillac!

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    Illuminati - I had a friend who was a Freemason, and he divulged some very interesting things. For one, all incoming presidents must go before the 33rd degree Freemasons before their presidencies begin. This is in order to collaborate to make sure that president's actions coincide with the plans for the New World Order (one world governed by one networked government -- some might say we're living under that right now). This friend also told me how he was having all kinds of dreams about death and was being driven to insanity (as in, attempted suicide and the like), then he burned his Freemasonry items, and all of a sudden, the dreams of death stopped and his behavior toned itself down.
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    JFK - I personally believe that there was a conspiracy. I'm sure Oswald was involved either in the shooting or in the planning....but....the fact that he did this ALONE.....doesn't hold ANY water...at all anymore.
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    I thought Howard Hunt came out to his family on his deathbed right before he died. He said something about the fact the CIA hated Kennedy for his stances on communism and the like, and so they conspired with Lyndon Johnson to have him killed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EvH_316_5150 View Post
    JFK - I personally believe that there was a conspiracy. I'm sure Oswald was involved either in the shooting or in the planning....but....the fact that he did this ALONE.....doesn't hold ANY water...at all anymore.
    If you want to see an interesting take on how things may have transpired, you may want to rent Flashpoint(1984). This film pretty much flew under the radar when it was released, but its not a stretch to think that this isn't the way it actually happened.
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    1. I'm sure we landed on the moon. However, I think due to flagging
    interest in the space program and/or lost or damaged footage, some images
    were ginned up to keep the public support in check as well as to stay competitive
    with the Ruskies. The American flag waving in the wind for example.

    2. If only Oswald had lived to tell his tale. The fact that he was summarily
    dispatched immediately after the event raises more questions than answers.
    Yeah, you can argue the lone-gun theory either way, but many answers
    died immediately with him I'm sure.

    3. 911. See Rumsfeld's recently released manifestos. Discuss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mistere View Post
    3. 911. See Rumsfeld's recently released manifestos. Discuss.
    More details please mistere, haven't heard anything about this ....
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    Quote Originally Posted by mistere View Post
    1. I'm sure we landed on the moon. However, I think due to flagging
    interest in the space program and/or lost or damaged footage, some images
    were ginned up to keep the public support in check as well as to stay competitive
    with the Ruskies. The American flag waving in the wind for example.

    2. If only Oswald had lived to tell his tale. The fact that he was summarily
    dispatched immediately after the event raises more questions than answers.
    Yeah, you can argue the lone-gun theory either way, but many answers
    died immediately with him I'm sure.

    3. 911. See Rumsfeld's recently released manifestos. Discuss.
    Flag was "waving" cuz the top had a rod in it to hold it horizontal and the bottom hung free. As he "screwed" it into the ground, the flag would wave. Honestly, do you think if they were going to fake something like that, they wouldnt do it in a studio with no wind or outside interference at all. The government screws up ALOT but come on

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    Reality check time:

    We landed on the moon.

    Yes, the US did get burned by terrorists from the middle east with nothing more than box cutters and a fearless attitude. Thinking that there is more story behind is just an irrational human response to want to believe that there really is someone in control.

    Oswald killed JFK.

    There are no plans for a "New World Order." If there was, they would've made more progress in the last 60 years. We are just as fucked as we were in the 40's. People can't get along with each other.

    Freemasons are just a simple gentleman's club for business connections.

    The world is much simpler than we would like to think it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bsbll4 View Post
    Reality check time:

    We landed on the moon.

    Yes, the US did get burned by terrorists from the middle east with nothing more than box cutters and a fearless attitude. Thinking that there is more story behind is just an irrational human response to want to believe that there really is someone in control.

    Oswald killed JFK.

    There are no plans for a "New World Order." If there was, they would've made more progress in the last 60 years. We are just as fucked as we were in the 40's. People can't get along with each other.

    Freemasons are just a simple gentleman's club for business connections.

    The world is much simpler than we would like to think it is.
    Actually, even the House Select Committee on Assassinations concluded, publicly, in 1978, that there were at least 2 assassins in on the JFK shooting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bsbll4 View Post
    There are no plans for a "New World Order." If there was, they would've made more progress in the last 60 years. We are just as fucked as we were in the 40's. People can't get along with each other.

    Freemasons are just a simple gentleman's club for business connections.

    The world is much simpler than we would like to think it is.
    Gotta call you on those two.

    First, there is, and has been for a very long time, a plan for "a new world order".

    This is not in any doubt.
    What is in doubt is to the exact nature and goals of such a plan. Some would say that the idea is a benign one and would be good for all of humanity. On the other end of the spectrum, the real die hards see this is a shadowy group of wealthy individuals wanting to control the economics of the world to their own advantage.

    Whichever is the truth, and the truth usually lies somewhere in the middle, astonishing progress has been made to this end. The United Nations, world bank, IMF, various continent wide unions, the world criminal courts, NATO, the massive extension of the English language, just to name some of the very obvious ones.

    With regard the Freemasons. Sure, theoretically it is for that end, but groups, by their very nature have greater power than the individual. It is if this power is used for good purposes or not. Once again, there are extremes of views on this, but the enormous power that has been exerted in the past by the masons has not always been put to good use, whether or not that was the initial intent of the organisation.

    I have first hand (well second) experience of how someone I knew very well was looking at a criminal conviction that was rock solid, who was virtually let off with that charge because somebody ( a mason) called in a favour.

    This was openly discussed in our circle. I knew most of those concerned.

    I agree that most of the time the world is a fairly simple place - people are after all very predictable - but I like to keep an open mind and do my own thinking rather than just blindly accepting everything I'm told. (btw, that was not meant as an attack on you just because I disagree).
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisTheEdHead View Post
    Actually, even the House Select Committee on Assassinations concluded, publicly, in 1978, that there were at least 2 assassins in on the JFK shooting.
    is it really a stretch to believe that a congressional committee got it wrong?
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