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    Default Immigration Raid on Slaughterhouse Largest Ever

    Good, if they're doing that kind of work, get 'em outta here!

    DES MOINES, Iowa - Federal officials say a raid at a northeastern Iowa meat processing plant this week was the largest in U.S. history.


    Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials say 390 people have been arrested on immigration charges after Monday's raid at Agriprocessors Inc. in Postville. The facility is the world's largest kosher meatpacking plant.

    The raid was aimed at seeking evidence of identity theft, stolen Social Security numbers and people who are in the country illegally.

    Fifty-six of those arrested have been released on humanitarian grounds; many of them have to take care of children.

    Others arrested in the raid at are being held in county jails and at a converted fairgrounds.

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    Chalk one up for the good guys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by janthraxx View Post
    Good, if they're doing that kind of work, get 'em outta here!
    So if these immigrants were working at...say, the "Boca Burger" factory, you'd be all for them staying in the country?
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    Quote Originally Posted by seenbad View Post
    Chalk one up for the good guys.
    Partially. They'll be locked up at about $55/day. That runs to something like $18,000+ per day, which will be paid by the federal government to local county jails. County jails fight each other to get these people, because it costs about $25-$30 a day to house a prisoner. They make *a lot* of money off of all of us this way.

    From here they'll end up in court, slowly. 390 people... that's a lot of work. A good portion of those will end up here in MN. Our "detained" court docket is pretty full as it is. These people are going to sit for a while before we buy them plane tickets home.

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    Buzz kill!!

    Good points. But I like the thought of 390 of them going home to spread the word on the bust and what a pain in the ass it was for THEM too. You would have to assume that at least 5,000 or so would hear their story first hand and second hand accounts would spread exponentially from that. I like the potential prevention aspects. Not hot on the cash required, but regardless the cost, you have to have some backbone to stand behind a policy or just don't have one at all.
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    Meanwhile, the group of guys that sold these illegals the stolen identities will still be in business ready to sell more stolen identities to the next wave that come in to replace the ones who were just arrested.
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    I'm all for shipping them out, but I don't necessarily see that there's a deterrent value. Many of them will come right back.

    I think there needs to be some rationalization of the system. *If* we're going to detain people, we should provide the resources to adjudicate them quickly. Cost is always given as the reason, but we spend great sums of money housing them.

    Better, I think, to bond them out as quickly as possible. Right now each one gets an individual background investigation prior to that even becoming a possibility.

    What would change all of this? Deterrence. Not targeted where it won't work, but rather at the employers. Start putting them out of business. Create incentives for workers to blow the whistle. Put a lien on their assets--or their officers' assets--to cover the totality of the costs associated with deporting the people they hired.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onefootoutthedoor View Post
    Meanwhile, the group of guys that sold these illegals the stolen identities will still be in business ready to sell more stolen identities to the next wave that come in to replace the ones who were just arrested.
    Making it more difficult to get Social Security cards would help. Most of the identities aren't stolen, just sold. Guys in prison sell their SS cards and just keep requesting new ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chefcraig View Post
    So if these immigrants were working at...say, the "Boca Burger" factory, you'd be all for them staying in the country?
    Not necessarily...plus I don't eat Boca stuff anyway cuz they're owned by tobacco assholes Phillip Morris
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    Why not let some of them stay so they can keep contributing to our broken down social security system? Also, instead of losing more jobs to third world countries, we create a third world country right here in the states. Maybe big corporations can teach them to do technical phone support like India.
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    Quote Originally Posted by weesfreewheelin View Post
    ...Also, instead of losing more jobs to third world countries, we create a third world country right here in the states. Maybe big corporations can teach them to do technical phone support like India.
    I take it you haven't visited the Fort Lauderdale/Miami area in the last decade or so, eh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by chefcraig View Post
    I take it you haven't visited the Fort Lauderdale/Miami area in the last decade or so, eh?
    Yes I have, had my first taste of cuban coffee (syrup) there about two years ago. Havn't slept since.
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    They could raid the whole town of Willmar, Minnesota. It's overrun with illegals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by weesfreewheelin View Post
    Yes I have, had my first taste of cuban coffee (syrup) there about two years ago. Havn't slept since.
    Yeah, that stuff is not called "rocket fuel" for nothin' !
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    Quote Originally Posted by weesfreewheelin View Post
    Why not let some of them stay so they can keep contributing to our broken down social security system? Also, instead of losing more jobs to third world countries, we create a third world country right here in the states. Maybe big corporations can teach them to do technical phone support like India.
    Have you heard Indian guys on the phone

    "Hewllo, Akgdeifgab Viddaloo speakin, 'aw cewn ew halp ew teuday?"


    We have loads on customer support services today in Britain that advertice themselves as 'english-native phone support only' for a reason

 

 

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