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    Here's another thought.

    Warner Bros. still had VH another contract for 2 albums. When VH broke that contract, WB held on to a lot of shit (logos, etc).

    I think Ed is doing all of this because he's trying to get as much as he can under his belt so he can start his own label, and move on. I just think it all has to do with the break of WB, and WB's ownership, vs. VH's ownership.

    If I'm not mistaken, "Van Halen" is property of WB, while newly registered "VAN HALEN" is registered to Ed.
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    The Pilgrims/Americans/Somersets whatever you want to call them, have NEVER displayed "SOX" anywhere on their caps, jerseys, or merchandise, therefore they shouldn't be referred to as such. However, the White Sox have used "SOX" since 1912.

    The SOX are in Chicago...we just allow the Pilgrims/Americans/Somersets to use the name.

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    Maybe FORD should register "Van HALEN".

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    Hmmmmmmmmm...maybe, but I doubt it. I think someone's true colors are coming through. And that color would be: fan fucker brown.
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    I think this has a lot to do with Alan Mintz. He's the kind of entertainment lawyer who squeezes every cash revenue for his clients. I truly believe he's trying to make sure Eddie has a steady income since there will be no tours soon.....either for medical reasons...or retirement reasons.

    I have no idea if this is the real reason for the trademark flap...but I bet it probably has some merit to it.....
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    The current law firm behind the recent events specializes in intelectual property law. What we're seeing is most likely the results of a competent law firm representing their client properly.

    I didn't say this is a good or bad thing!!

    Appears Ed's previous lawyer mostly likely didn't protect his interests and the result was trademark/copyright infringements wide spread for years.

    Unfortunately, from a legal perspective protecting your intelectual property is an all or none type of effort. Now with the barn door having been left open for so long... there a lot of stuff to be rounded up.

    The unfortunate part is it will effect fan sites such as this and the others carrying the VH torch... sad actually since it only serves to alienate an already frustrated fan base... sad
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    You know Zahzoo that's all fine and dandy, but what purpose does it serve to not allow fan sites to use VH logos? I mean come on. If anything places like this bring money to Eddie; not take it away.

    No matter how you slice this, it's a direct slap in the face from Edward Van Halen to his most die-hard fans. It makes absolutely no sense at all.

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    Like I said, if I generated profit from this site I would be more than willing to give it to Eddie/VH for use of the logos, I could care less about that.
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    Does WB have an interest in the logos and 5150? If so, could that limit Eddie's ability to license, like with the guitars?

    Just a total guess.

    It makes no sense whatsoever to license one part but not the others. The only other guess I'd have is trying to keep the logos and 5150 as the "official" designators, to prevent someone from appearing to be an "official" web site when they are not. Which, if you asked me before I got sucked in here, I probably would've thought was reasonable. Frankly, this place looks like an official site to the uninitiated.

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    It think it more about integrity than it is about money at this point anyway.
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    The Pilgrims/Americans/Somersets whatever you want to call them, have NEVER displayed "SOX" anywhere on their caps, jerseys, or merchandise, therefore they shouldn't be referred to as such. However, the White Sox have used "SOX" since 1912.

    The SOX are in Chicago...we just allow the Pilgrims/Americans/Somersets to use the name.

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    It may look like it's official, but no claim has ever been made and our disclaimer certainly states that as well. Guess next time I will remember to build a really bad looking site that looks like the average 12-year old did it, that should clear that up. [img]smile.gif[/img]
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    Originally posted by Brett:
    It may look like it's official, but no claim has ever been made and our disclaimer certainly states that as well. Guess next time I will remember to build a really bad looking site that looks like the average 12-year old did it, that should clear that up. [img]smile.gif[/img]
    See, now there you have it, it's all your fault for having a better site than Brad.

    Just struggling to see if anything makes sense. I just don't believe this is arbitrary. And I don't believe the "money grubbing greedy Ed" aspect of it, as if that was it, they'd be pursuing monetary damages and suing (especially the guitar sites), and trying to sell licenses, not give them for free.

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    Originally posted by Chet Dakota:
    Maybe FORD should register "Van HALEN".
    Yeah, before the greedy lying dutchfuck sues me

    Maybe I'll copyright "cheese" and "sheep" while I'm at it?
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    Originally posted by FORD:
    Maybe I'll copyright "cheese" and "sheep" while I'm at it?
    Don't forget "Van Hagar"! You invented it, after all!

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    folks i kmow everything looks bad ,hell im pretty pissed too. but if this mean a "possible" record then hey fuck it it makes it worth it right. i love this forum and dont want it to be shut down. i hope that brett can work things out. the way i see it is everything happens for a reason.let try and stay as positive as we can. [img]graemlins/thumb.gif[/img]
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    Originally posted by dkcou812:
    folks i kmow everything looks bad ,hell im pretty pissed too. but if this mean a "possible" record then hey fuck it it makes it worth it right. i love this forum and dont want it to be shut down. i hope that brett can work things out. the way i see it is everything happens for a reason.let try and stay as positive as we can. [img]graemlins/thumb.gif[/img]
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