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    Default *** Raleigh REVIEWS 5.5 ***

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scotty View Post
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    Well, is it tomorrow evening yet?

    It was an awesome show. Eddie was right on through the night. I'd say it was even better than Greensboro although that show was special since I hadn't seen them in some 24 years.

    Favorite moment: Dave says to Wolfie during some song (not panama). "Wofgang, I see you are getting some action here... now, I am gonna quote you one of my favorite philosophers ' YOU'LL GET SOME LEGS TONITE BOY SURE - COME ON TELL US HOW YOU DO' "

    During "everybody want some" they started jamming Clapton's "crossroads" which was also very cool.

    In all: Eddie was spot on all night. DLR was at the top of his game. Monster show!!

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    First back again I see. I presume everyone here was seen the show so could someone get a decent film of one of the last remaining shows!? All things are about as polished as you can get. Very sweet show. Ed may have simplified things a bit but played what he did perfectly. Cathedral was very nice. Where is the final solo on Mean Street BTW? Little guitars is gone from the set. Why did they have to pick that one? My favorite song of course. Romeo Delight alone is worth the price of admission. Much fuller versions of Magic Bus and Crossroads which is why they probably cut LG.
    Special tonight...some guy ran up on stage at the end of Ice Cream man and hugged Ed and Ed was smiling and hugging back. This of course is right before Dave went after him and the giant 'home boy' (Roth's word's) put him in a head lock and carried him off stage.
    Pretty much got the whole show on my Cannon powershot but the sound quality is iffy.

    Once again if you haven't seen the show yet, youtube clips don't cut it. Keep in mind it can all be over quickly with Ed's health. See it while you can and hope this summer they can work on something new.

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    Cathedral should be up on Youtube. Sharp

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    Quote Originally Posted by desandsevo100 View Post
    Cathedral should be up on Youtube. Sharp
    can someone PM me to verify that LITTLE GUITARS is out? i had heard EXACT SAME SETLIST up until the info posted above

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    Edward was definitely spot on, as mentioned already. Really sharp playing. His solo was a bit longer than I remember it being at the first two shows, and a lot better, IMO.

    Wolfie is much more comfortable up there....he and Edward goofing with each other is cool. One time Wolf reached over and tapped Eddie's guitar, and when Eddie reached to do the same to Wolf's bass, he turned around and walked away.

    And during one song (ATBL, I think), Wolf was operating Eddie's wah-wah pedal during the solo. And Dave came over and worked Wolf's foot a bit, too. The dueling drills were cool at the beginning of EWS, too.

    Alex was Alex. Solid, as always.

    Dave: I'm going to have to say that Dave was doing less singing than the first two shows of the tour. More of him working the crowd, and MUCH less of the lyrics being uttered than at the beginning of the tour. (I was at Charlotte and Greensboro)
    Not that I had a problem with it....Dave was certainly giving the effort. Just not as much singing, and I heard a couple of folks griping about that....even though the vast majority LOVED the show. Some folks just don't "get" DLR/Van Halen....the types that think a great show is someone like Radiohead just standing in one place all night and trying to sound exactly like their record, while looking completely lifeless.

    I was wondering if Dave was sick for awhile...dude was POURING sweat after like 2 songs....it's not hot here.
    I will say this: I felt like his scream was as strong as I've heard it in years. He screamed more in the first half of the show than in the first two show combined, and it sounded stronger.
    REALLY makes me want to hear some new stuff with Dave on the mic.
    Whether he was sick or not, he still put on a hell of a show.


    My personal impression of the show was that it was great, but just not as "electric" an atmosphere as Charlotte or Greensboro....then again, how could it be? Those were the first two shows with Dave in over 20 years.
    I wore Hearos for this show, and even though I could hear the band perfectly, they really cut down on the crowd noise, and I'm thinking that's what is causing my impression of this particular show......everyone else there seemed to think it was awesome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by simplerhym View Post
    can someone PM me to verify that LITTLE GUITARS is out? i had heard EXACT SAME SETLIST up until the info posted above
    They did not play Little Guitars.
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    WOW!

    Outstanding. This was my 3rd show of the tour. We had 1st row Wolfie's side. I The sound was the best of all 3 shows- crystal clear, perfect volume. I agree that it would be impossible to match the crowd intensity of the first few shows, but this was a fun crowd overall. Lots of empty seats in the 2nd & 3rd levels. Security was really tite, but everyone was really professional & they had no problem with me snapping pics with my dig. camera all nite. Good to see Wolfie more comfortable on stage, he's like a different person from the earlier "deer in the headlite" shows. Wish he would have thrown us a damn pick though! We were begging for 1 all nite. 3rd show, would have been nice to have a memento. A girl in the PIT got 3.

    Dave sounded even better than previous shows. Jeez, could this guy be any more ripped? Hope I look half that good at in my 50's. & Ed is simply on top of his game like everyone said. Still wish they'd use the runway more- just 2 laps tonite. & Jump should be retired forever from the setlist. but these are minor quips. This may be the last time I ever see this incarnation of VH but I feel thoroughly satisfied. THANX VAN HALEN!! -
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    This was my first/last time seeing VH on this tour, unless I win Power Ball! I know I don't post here very often, but I thought I'd give my take on the show. I missed out on the Charlotte and Greensboro shows, but after last night I don't care. Some of the audio/video of those weren't that impressive. Last night Van Halen sounded bombastic. The drums were killer, everytime Alex slammed into the kickdrum, it felt like someone was literally kicking me in the chest. Wolf had a few good moments, a little noodling during the mean street intro, the kid is much better than I thought. For the most part Wolf was kinda invisible. Although, I still wish Mikey was up there. Dave was his usual predictable self. I'm not sure he was totally into it. Either he really forgot the words at times, or he just didn't feel like it. To be fair, Dave sang really well when he tried, at least that was my impression. I did like his comment about needing three people to throw a flat screen tv out the hotel window. Last, but not least there's Eddie. What more can you say about the guy? The "brown sound" was back, only it had a little something added to it, maybe "dirty brown sound"? Eddie's playing was crisp and clean, no major issues. Definetly the best I've ever heard him play! The only issues I heard were when he switched from the white Fender proto to the Charvel Art Series for a couple songs, a lot of feedback for whatever reason. I don't think I can pick a favorite song out of the evening, I enjoyed them all. I could live without "I'll Wait", maybe "Drop Dead Legs" instead? Hearing the band jam out to "Magic Bus and Crossroads was very cool. I think the funniest part of the evening was seeing some dude on the jumbo screen get down with a couple of "Cougars". Overall it was a great night and I am very happy I went. If it matters I was in section 5 of the floor seating. If anyone has their doubts about catching them before the tour concludes, I'd recommend going.
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    The band sounded incredible and looked like they were having fun. It didn't seem loud at all from the upper level. The crowd in the back sections sucked though! They were clueless and seated the whole time. There were a bunch of empty seats.

    It was still an awesome show though! Now I'm waiting for AC on Friday!

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    I was very impressed with Ed, Alex and Wolf. All 3 were excellent, and Ed was as good as I've ever heard him.
    Dave, on the other hand, did not impress me much. Granted, this is the first time I've seen VH with DLR, and maybe I just don't get his whole "flashy" deal, but that wasn't really the part I had a beef with. Dave is Dave, and I know he's gonna be a little "out there" on stage, he's a showman. His singing, however, is very suspect. I wasn't sure whether I wanted to wear my earplugs or not, but after the first 2 songs, I realized that the plugs really helped block out a lot of the echo and "mud" from the mix being too loud. Helped a lot. One thing I did notice however is that Dave sounded like shit with my plugs in. With them out, it was so loud and muddy that he really didn't sound bad (because frankly you couldn't hear him that well). With them in, he seemed to be really stretching his voice up to a range that he really doesn't have any more. Plus, a few of his screams sounded like a pig squealing, not what they used to be. He pulled off a few of them, but not many. I will admit, I was up in the nosebleeds, so maybe that's the difference, but I don't think that would affect him being out of tune on the high notes. Oddly enough, he sounded great on the 3 covers they did. Maybe because they were in a lower vocal range? I also like the Ice Cream Man prelude about when he was getting high back in high school.
    I can get over the fact that he looked like Gay Elvis doing aerobics on stage, I expected that, but his voice to me sounded worse live than I expected after seeing a few of the youtube clips. Maybe that's because he's drowned out on those too. I did want to reiterate that I noticed the difference with the earplugs in. With them out, I probably wouldn't have noticed it (except for the Gay Elvis part), but the other 3 also wouldn't have sounded as good. Ed, Alex, and Wolf to me sounded much, much better with the earplugs blocking out some of the excess echo/reverb/mud/whatever the technical term is for the shit that is caused by them being way too loud. Dave wasn't all bad, I don't want to make him out to be that bad, I was just a little let down with him.
    Ed was unbelievable. Perfect. I can't really say anything else to add to that. Seemed happy, although still smoking on the side of the stage. I'd love to hear a soundboard cut of him live for one of these last 5 or 6 shows since the break. I bet that sounds even better.
    If they don't put out a live recording or DVD, I think it may be because of Dave's voice. Maybe they can piece together a few shows where he sounded good, but I just don't know. I know I'm the complete opposite of everyone else's opinion, but I couldn't help but point it out. And I was 100% sober by the way.
    Alex was very good. I know everyone says the same thing about him, but its true. He is steady and awesome. My wife said he was really good also, but that he hit every branch of the "ugly tree" on the way down. I cant say he's GQ material, but that's not what he gets paid for.
    I think Wolf impressed me the most. He is very talented for his age and he seemed to be opening up a little more in respect to his stage presence. He's still reserved, but compared to Dave anyone would be a quiet mouse.
    I really enjoyed the show. If there was some way to have plugs in for Ed, Al, and Wolf, and have them out for Dave, all at the same time, it would have been even more awesome. The loudness was actually a good thing for Dave, but bad for all else involved. Lots of kids (under 14) there by the way. I was really surprised by this. I figured it would be all 40-50 year olds, and they were there too, don't get me wrong. But a LOT of teenagers. That's good to see.
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    I'll chime in one more time: I didn't really have plans to go because I did already see the Greensboro show with some buddies and they weren't planning to see it a second time. So I am sitting at home at 7:30 itching, thinking about the mighty VH hitting the stage soon; right in my backyard. So I get up, say "fuck it I am going" and off I go much to the dismay of my wife.

    Anyway, as I get there I walk up to the ticket counter and ask for the best ticket they've got. Turns out, $125 buys me pretty much the best seat in the house: Floor 2, third row, seat 11 (one off the left passage way between floor 2 and 3). So I am super psyched.

    As I have said before, the show was outstanding. I too noticed Roth sweating a lot and not looking quite as swell as he did in Greensboro. He was probably sick.

    Now to the not so nice part: Midway through the show, some very animated dudes appeared out of nowhere taking position right in front of where I am standing. These guys were rocking out big time, and in the beginning, it was just annoying because they blocked my view. After a while, they were joined by their two even more animated friends, one of which was absolutely shit faced and wearing no shirt. These idiots now took position next to me and the dude to my left (a guy who drove up from Greensboro in his business attire when he heard about the concert on the radio). As the end of the show is approaching, these guys get more and more wild, stumbling around in the space between floor 2 and 3 and after a while, it was really hard to pay attention to the show. Finally, the shirtless moron and his dumbass buddy fell over the business fella next to me and we were barely able to keep on our feet. This is when yours truly lost his temper. Now, I haven't been in a fist fight in gawd knows how long, but I was ready to go at this point. I called on the guard in front of the floor 2 section, pointed to these guys and screamed that "I want these fucking idiots outa here." I repeated this at the top of my lungs for the next little while. The guard did nothing. I passed the business guy, approaching the two morons and I started pushing on them. A small overweight guard had arrived at this point and I screamed to him to get the idiots out otherwise I would. The guy did nothing. I was angry as hell. What the hell is wrong with security at this place? At this point, all the other people around us were getting involved as well. So there were about ten people just yelling at the top of their head to the guards to get these fucking morons thrown out. Finally, two linebacker sized guards appeared and escorted our friends some few feet away. It is possible that they threw one of them out (the shirtless wonder), but three three friends remained in the vicinity. I don't think any of them had tickets for those seats.


    Anyway, I am pushing 40 at this point and I haven't been this close to landing my fist in somebody's face in what must be a good 20 years. Okay, maybe 10 but still. I do not understand that I should pay a premium ticket fee (ok, I know that some of you paid 300 bucks for the same tickets which makes it even worse) and have to deal with a bunch of fucking drunk morons ruining the show for me and all the other good people standing next to me. I honestly expect more. And for the lame ass guard that repeatedly ignored these assholes, I have absolutely no respect. Grow a pair. Seriously.

    Anyway: Rant over.

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    I have to say I agree with the above post on Dave's lyrics. I couldn't help but be distracted, by what seemed to be a complete lack of attention to the vocals by DLR..
    And to expose the 800lb gorilla in the room -- what's up with the over-liberace-esque performance? DLR then ended up the night with a super gay outfit that he loaned from the village people..
    (and yes, I love van halen).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nature Boy View Post
    I was very impressed with Ed, Alex and Wolf. All 3 were excellent, and Ed was as good as I've ever heard him.
    Dave, on the other hand, did not impress me much. Granted, this is the first time I've seen VH with DLR, and maybe I just don't get his whole "flashy" deal, but that wasn't really the part I had a beef with. Dave is Dave, and I know he's gonna be a little "out there" on stage, he's a showman. His singing, however, is very suspect. I wasn't sure whether I wanted to wear my earplugs or not, but after the first 2 songs, I realized that the plugs really helped block out a lot of the echo and "mud" from the mix being too loud. Helped a lot. One thing I did notice however is that Dave sounded like shit with my plugs in. With them out, it was so loud and muddy that he really didn't sound bad (because frankly you couldn't hear him that well). With them in, he seemed to be really stretching his voice up to a range that he really doesn't have any more. Plus, a few of his screams sounded like a pig squealing, not what they used to be. He pulled off a few of them, but not many. I will admit, I was up in the nosebleeds, so maybe that's the difference, but I don't think that would affect him being out of tune on the high notes. Oddly enough, he sounded great on the 3 covers they did. Maybe because they were in a lower vocal range? I also like the Ice Cream Man prelude about when he was getting high back in high school.
    I can get over the fact that he looked like Gay Elvis doing aerobics on stage, I expected that, but his voice to me sounded worse live than I expected after seeing a few of the youtube clips. Maybe that's because he's drowned out on those too. I did want to reiterate that I noticed the difference with the earplugs in. With them out, I probably wouldn't have noticed it (except for the Gay Elvis part), but the other 3 also wouldn't have sounded as good. Ed, Alex, and Wolf to me sounded much, much better with the earplugs blocking out some of the excess echo/reverb/mud/whatever the technical term is for the shit that is caused by them being way too loud. Dave wasn't all bad, I don't want to make him out to be that bad, I was just a little let down with him.
    Ed was unbelievable. Perfect. I can't really say anything else to add to that. Seemed happy, although still smoking on the side of the stage. I'd love to hear a soundboard cut of him live for one of these last 5 or 6 shows since the break. I bet that sounds even better.
    If they don't put out a live recording or DVD, I think it may be because of Dave's voice. Maybe they can piece together a few shows where he sounded good, but I just don't know. I know I'm the complete opposite of everyone else's opinion, but I couldn't help but point it out. And I was 100% sober by the way.
    Alex was very good. I know everyone says the same thing about him, but its true. He is steady and awesome. My wife said he was really good also, but that he hit every branch of the "ugly tree" on the way down. I cant say he's GQ material, but that's not what he gets paid for.
    I think Wolf impressed me the most. He is very talented for his age and he seemed to be opening up a little more in respect to his stage presence. He's still reserved, but compared to Dave anyone would be a quiet mouse.
    I really enjoyed the show. If there was some way to have plugs in for Ed, Al, and Wolf, and have them out for Dave, all at the same time, it would have been even more awesome. The loudness was actually a good thing for Dave, but bad for all else involved. Lots of kids (under 14) there by the way. I was really surprised by this. I figured it would be all 40-50 year olds, and they were there too, don't get me wrong. But a LOT of teenagers. That's good to see.

    Good review. What did you think of DLR's voice?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gtrplayah View Post
    I have to say I agree with the above post on Dave's lyrics. I couldn't help but be distracted, by what seemed to be a complete lack of attention to the vocals by DLR.. ..
    (and yes, I love van halen).
    This was Dave back when I first saw them in Aug 1981. Nothing's changed! I'll be seeing them on May 11th and I'm totally expecting DLR to screw up the words just as he did 27 years ago!

 

 

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