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    Director breaks wall of silence at state's Muslim public school
    By KATHERINE KERSTEN, Star Tribune

    Last update: April 9, 2008 - 11:09 AM

    Recently, I wrote about Tarek ibn Ziyad Academy (TIZA), a K-8 charter school in Inver Grove Heights. Charter schools are public schools and by law must not endorse or promote religion.

    Evidence suggests, however, that TIZA is an Islamic school, funded by Minnesota taxpayers.

    TIZA has many characteristics that suggest a religious school. It shares the headquarters building of the Muslim American Society of Minnesota, whose mission is "establishing Islam in Minnesota." The building also houses a mosque. TIZA's executive director, Asad Zaman, is a Muslim imam, or religious leader, and its sponsor is an organization called Islamic Relief.

    Students pray daily, the cafeteria serves halal food - permissible under Islamic law -- and "Islamic Studies" is offered at the end of the school day.

    Zaman maintains that TIZA is not a religious school. He declined, however, to allow me to visit the school to see for myself, "due to the hectic schedule for statewide testing." But after I e-mailed him that the Minnesota Department of Education had told me that testing would not begin for several weeks, Zaman did not respond -- even to urgent calls and e-mails seeking comment before my first column on TIZA.

    Now, however, an eyewitness has stepped forward. Amanda Getz of Bloomington is a substitute teacher. She worked as a substitute in two fifth-grade classrooms at TIZA on Friday, March 14. Her experience suggests that school-sponsored religious activity plays an integral role at TIZA.

    Arriving on a Friday, the Muslim holy day, she says she was told that the day's schedule included a "school assembly" in the gym after lunch.

    Before the assembly, she says she was told, her duties would include taking her fifth-grade students to the bathroom, four at a time, to perform "their ritual washing."

    Afterward, Getz said, "teachers led the kids into the gym, where a man dressed in white with a white cap, who had been at the school all day," was preparing to lead prayer. Beside him, another man "was prostrating himself in prayer on a carpet as the students entered."

    "The prayer I saw was not voluntary," Getz said. "The kids were corralled by adults and required to go to the assembly where prayer occurred."

    Islamic Studies was also incorporated into the school day. "When I arrived, I was told 'after school we have Islamic Studies,' and I might have to stay for hall duty," Getz said. "The teachers had written assignments on the blackboard for classes like math and social studies. Islamic Studies was the last one -- the board said the kids were studying the Qu'ran. The students were told to copy it into their planner, along with everything else. That gave me the impression that Islamic Studies was a subject like any other."

    After school, Getz's fifth-graders stayed in their classroom and the man in white who had led prayer in the gym came in to teach Islamic Studies. TIZA has in effect extended the school day -- buses leave only after Islamic Studies is over. Getz did not see evidence of other extra-curricular activity, except for a group of small children playing outside. Significantly, 77 percent of TIZA parents say that their "main reason for choosing TIZA ... was because of after-school programs conducted by various non-profit organizations at the end of the school period in the school building," according to a TIZA report. TIZA may be the only school in Minnesota with this distinction.

    TIZA's operation as a public, taxpayer-funded school is troubling on several fronts. TIZA is skirting the law by operating what is essentially an Islamic school at taxpayer expense. The Department of Education has failed to provide the oversight necessary to catch these illegalities, and appears to lack the tools to do so. In addition, there's a double standard at work here -- if TIZA were a Christian school, it would likely be gone in a heartbeat.
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    Director breaks wall of silence at state's Muslim public school
    By KATHERINE KERSTEN, Star Tribune

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    In addition, there's a double standard at work here -- if TIZA were a Christian school, it would likely be gone in a heartbeat.


    The above sentence is not presented in quotation marks. Is this news or editorial?

    Bad journalist! Bad, bad journalist!



    Anyway, I support a state-funded Muslim school. I think they ought to at least get a tax break. I don't support their activities if they are stealing tax money to fund a religous school by representing themselves as something they are not.
    It's impossible to know, however, from reading this article, since I can't tell whether it's news or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullwinkle View Post
    The above sentence is not presented in quotation marks. Is this news or editorial?

    Bad journalist! Bad, bad journalist!
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    If Akhnad has 4 backpack bombs and he detonates 2 of them, how many bombs are left?
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    Thanks.

    It's not news, then. Just an opinion column.







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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullwinkle View Post
    Anyway, I support a state-funded Muslim school. I think they ought to at least get a tax break. I don't support their activities if they are stealing tax money to fund a religous school by representing themselves as something they are not.
    I'm confused. By Minnesota law, a publicly funded school is not allowed to promote or even endorse any religion. Are you against the stipulated law and therefore in of support all religions in schools, or merely for Muslim ones?

    Like I said, a little clarification is in order here.
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    Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on Wednesday to get out of Australia , as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks.

    Separately, Howa rd angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying he supported spy agencies monitoring the nation's mosques.
    Quote: 'IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT. Take It Or Leave It. I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Bali , we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Australians.

    'This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles, trials and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom.

    'We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of o ur society. Learn the language; This is not some Christian, right wing, political push, but a fact, because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly
    documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture.
    We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why. All we ask is that you accept ours, and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us.

    'This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs, or Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great Australian freedom:
    'THE RIGHT TO LEAVE'.

    ' If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force you to come here. You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted.'

    Way to go Australia. Sounds like the U.S. and Britain should have made this stance a decade ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmy812 View Post
    If Akhnad has 4 backpack bombs and he detonates 2 of them, how many bombs are left?
    Damn, this is hard..........was never good at subtraction.

    Lets see.............umm, 3!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hurricane Halen View Post
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    Indeed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmy812 View Post
    If Akhnad has 4 backpack bombs and he detonates 2 of them, how many bombs are left?
    He is left with 0, the other 2 are sure to detonate also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sickman View Post
    He is left with 0, the other 2 are sure to detonate also.
    That can't be correct. For instance if Akhnad were wearing either of the two, there would be little of him left. So that leaves two remaining, and zero Aknads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sickman View Post
    He is left with 0, the other 2 are sure to detonate also.
    EXCELLENT!!! Good job! Please proceed to your 72 virgins.
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    Virgins?

    Yechhh...
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    Quote Originally Posted by chefcraig View Post
    That can't be correct. For instance if Akhnad were wearing either of the two, there would be little of him left. So that leaves two remaining, and zero Aknads.

    Well, wouldn't Akhnad really be, "Divided" and then redone into "fractions", instead of him being Zero?

    Mathematical possibility and answers are endless with Akhnad math!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hurricane Halen View Post
    Well, wouldn't Akhnad really be, "Divided" and then redone into "fractions", instead of him being Zero?

    Mathematical possibility and answers are endless with Akhnad math!!

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    I dunno...having a bag "three quarters full" of Aknad sort of defeats or proves my point, yet at this time I'm so confused I don't really know what to think. And what with Aknad currently kibitzing with the virgins, he's hardly in a position to provide much more enlightenment.
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