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    One thing I really like about Van Halen is how different all their songs are from one to the next. With that said, has anybody ever noticed how similar the intros to Jump and Panama are? Yes, I know one is guitar and the other synth... but the chords and the "feel" seem really similar sounding to me....

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    The outro guitar riff in Jump is also the intro guitar riff for Top Of The World.

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    The shapes of the chords are very similar on the guitar, just different parts of the neck. He also uses those shapes in Dance the Night Away. It's just a simple three chord progression that can be moved up and down the neck and Ed used it many times for a few different songs. Definitely an Ed staple.
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    He uses the same shapes in the "Women In Love" Intro.

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    Yes, he used those shapes in a LOT of the songs he wrote. I guess he just likes them. Romeo Delight, SGMAD, Unchained, So This Is Love etc.
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    "Secrets" is another one that's very similar

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    There's a part in the Humans Being solo that sounds very similar to Learning to See''s solo.
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    the beginning for Up For Breakfast sounds just like Why Cant This Be Love also

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    Listen to any player for about 15 minutes and you've pretty much heard the whole bag of tricks. Ed's no different. Not that this is such a bad thing, just the way it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzefflin View Post
    Listen to any player for about 15 minutes and you've pretty much heard the whole bag of tricks. Ed's no different. Not that this is such a bad thing, just the way it is.
    Yeah, I agree. The thing I like about the band's music though is that a lot of the songs sound so different. They never really had a straight cookie cuter approach...

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    Quote Originally Posted by nicholas_kudochop View Post
    One thing I really like about Van Halen is how different all their songs are from one to the next. With that said, has anybody ever noticed how similar the intros to Jump and Panama are? Yes, I know one is guitar and the other synth... but the chords and the "feel" seem really similar sounding to me....
    I have to admit that when I read this thread I thought WTF? But after sitting here playing the riffs to both songs in my head I would have to agree a little.Like some others said, Ed, like many players take a fondness to certain chord voicings and use them. I do the same thing now that I think about it!

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    "Jump" uses major triads and a sus2. The intro to "Panama" uses major triads and a sus4. They aren't the same, but both are very "typical Ed."

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    Quote Originally Posted by smme5150 View Post
    I have to admit that when I read this thread I thought WTF? But after sitting here playing the riffs to both songs in my head I would have to agree a little.
    Haha, thanks! Ya know, I'm not some noob, man, lol...

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndrewThomas.net View Post
    "Jump" uses major triads and a sus2. The intro to "Panama" uses major triads and a sus4. They aren't the same, but both are very "typical Ed."
    From memory he also uses it in the intro to "Josephina" (which always reminds me of Sweet Lady by Queen.

    He also uses sus4 for Unchained. (or does it become a minor7, I can never remember and I dont have a guitar in front of me)

    To be honest whenever I hear Ed use sus4, particularly in an ascending or descending progression like Josephina or Unchained it just sounds "lazy" songwriting to me for some reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glenninaus View Post
    From memory he also uses it in the intro to "Josephina" (which always reminds me of Sweet Lady by Queen.

    He also uses sus4 for Unchained. (or does it become a minor7, I can never remember and I dont have a guitar in front of me)

    To be honest whenever I hear Ed use sus4, particularly in an ascending or descending progression like Josephina or Unchained it just sounds "lazy" songwriting to me for some reason.

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    You're right on "Unchained," Glenn. It's all A-shape major barre chords then suspended.

    Funny you mention "Josephina," because I never once tried to play that song until a couple of weeks ago when I was noodling around with those suspended chords and accidentally played a little of the intro. Again... classic Ed. And you're also right about the ascending/descending thing; he uses it like crazy to get into choruses or other sections of songs--chromatically quite often. ("Panama," "Without You," "Me Wise Magic," "Best Of Both Worlds," etc.)

 

 

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