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  • Van Hagar- 5150

    10 38.46%
  • Def Leppard - Hysteria

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    Default Which album was the bigger sellout, "Hysteria" or "5150"?

    Let's examine two ONCE GREAT bands...

    Van Halen without a doubt...
    The greatest Rock N' Roll band of all time with David Lee Roth...
    America's party band...
    Turned into a cheesy Journey coverband....
    With cheesy lyrics... terrible songs... and a frontman...
    Who is a much better vocalist than David Lee Roth...
    But has about as much charisma... as a piece of lettuce...
    How did the Mighty Van Halen go from the most kick ass rock band...
    To a bad 80's hair band...

    On the other hand...
    You have a another kick ass rock band...
    Def Leppard...
    That started going to shit after they fired Pete Willis...
    While the rest of the band was already a bunch of raging alcoholics...
    The slide started with Pyromania...
    And eventually turned into a neutered Mutt Lange version of their previous selves...
    No more hard ass Rock N ' Roll...
    Just gay love ballads like Love Bites...
    Catering to MTV and fat ugly females with mullets...

    Which album was more of a disgrace??
    I know it's hard... but choose....
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    I'd say neither.

    Let's not forget, 5150 had elements of a CVH album still in there. Aside from songs like "Why Can't This Be Love" and "Love Walks In", the music was still VERY Classic Van Halen, regardless of what one may think. My only complaint towards this album is the shitty production. Way too '80s for my liking. Still, the songs are good and I don't think it could really be considered a sell-out.

    As for Hysteria, I'll admit, some songs are hit-or-miss. Production-wise, for 1987, it's an absolute masterpiece. Whoever produced it (and I SHOULD know this) did a damn fine job considering the era he was in.

    It's safe to say I like both albums equally. They have their strengths and they have their weaknesses. Most weaknesses ARE the ballads, but the albums still contain elements of each band's classic sound.
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    Speaking for those of us who were in high school and rocking out to both of those albums at the time, I find this thread a sellout, and repeating past arguements and discussions. In the words of Jason Newstead, 5150 and Hysteria were sellouts all right "every arena every night". Yeah the ballads seem a little cheesy now, but no one was bitching in '86 and '87. You also need to remember that these were follow-ups to two all time classic rock albums (Pyromania & 1984). Big shoes to fill.

    Look at the music of the last 10 or 15 years; 10 to 15 years from now, I doubt it holds up as well as either of those albums.
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    I think Hysteria sold about 10 million copies and 5150 about 6 million.

    I don't know if the record stores were ever "sold out" of either one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vhrocks2005 View Post
    I'd say neither.

    Let's not forget, 5150 had elements of a CVH album still in there. Aside from songs like "Why Can't This Be Love" and "Love Walks In", the music was still VERY Classic Van Halen, regardless of what one may think. My only complaint towards this album is the shitty production. Way too '80s for my liking. Still, the songs are good and I don't think it could really be considered a sell-out.

    As for Hysteria, I'll admit, some songs are hit-or-miss. Production-wise, for 1987, it's an absolute masterpiece. Whoever produced it (and I SHOULD know this) did a damn fine job considering the era he was in.

    It's safe to say I like both albums equally. They have their strengths and they have their weaknesses. Most weaknesses ARE the ballads, but the albums still contain elements of each band's classic sound.
    Hysteria?
    A masterpiece?!?!
    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
    Go listen to "High N' Dry" bro!!
    You're still young my man...
    There is still hope for you!!
    Rock N' Roll isn't about making LOVE BALLADS for MTV...
    Tryin' to score a hit and sell more albums...
    Go listen to the rawness of High N' Dry combined with Steve Clark and Pete Willis... pure balls to the walls rock music...
    I'll teach you the ways of REAL ROCK!!
    I believe you still have a chance!! lol

    Seriously... do you own fair warning?
    Compared to 5150... it's night and day...
    Two totally different bands...
    One band features Eddie's best guitar work...
    The other band is a washed up synthesizer hair band...
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    Shouldn't this thread be re-titled as to what album was more 'gayer'?

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    Never thought that 5150 was a sellout in the least bit.
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    When 5150 came out, it was a new beginning for VH with a new singer when we all thought they'd never find another after the departure of the Diamond One. Notta sellout to me.

    On the other hand, Hysteria was total 180 from the sounds of High and Dry, On Through the Night, even Pyromania. Too mellow for Lep (and for me).

    Just my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smithjc View Post
    When 5150 came out, it was a new beginning for VH with a new singer when we all thought they'd never find another after the departure of the Diamond One.
    I guess we can all be thankful Patty Smyth wasn't the replacement. LOL
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    OMG I can't even picture that one!!! Glad I didn't have to.

    Hysteria was too mellow for Def Lep after Pyromania. Definitely not a party album.
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    Neither. They were both great albums with great songs on them and I was right there playing the hell out of them when they came out.


    Care to explain to me what the hell "Crazy From The Heat" was? Yeah, pure in-your-face Diamond Dave there, huh Women and ROTH first?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Double Down View Post
    Neither. They were both great albums with great songs on them and I was right there playing the hell out of them when they came out.


    Care to explain to me what the hell "Crazy From The Heat" was? Yeah, pure in-your-face Diamond Dave there, huh Women and ROTH first?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Double Down View Post
    Neither. They were both great albums with great songs on them and I was right there playing the hell out of them when they came out.


    Care to explain to me what the hell "Crazy From The Heat" was? Yeah, pure in-your-face Diamond Dave there, huh Women and ROTH first?
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    I didnt like skyCRAPer either.

    But it was WAY better than ou812...

    Alot of artists put out shit from 1986-88...

    Too much synth....

    Jesus... does anyone remember the Judas Priest - Turbo Lover album? lol

    I think Guns N ' Roses was the only great band to emerge from the late 80's...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Women And Roth First View Post
    Jesus... doesn't anyone remember the Judas Priest - Turbo Lover album? lol
    Is that the one with the appalling version of "Johnny B. Goode"?

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