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    So my girlfriend went and bought me a strat body for my birthday. I've got all of the parts on order now, and am getting ready to assemble it.

    Here's the first of what I'm sure will be the many problems I'll be running into... The neck I got on eBay has different neck screw spacing than the body. I figure it's no big deal, I'm just gonna go to home depot, get some appropriate sized wood dowels, and wood glue 'em in, right? Anyone think I'll have a problem with that method, or have better ideas?
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    I'm not a luthier. In a former life however, I framed metal and hung drywall. You are saying that you have essentially a hunk of wood with four holes in it, which you plan to fill and then drill four more holes into? Hey, that sounds terrific if you are making a paper-weight for your desk.

    Yet this chunk of wood will have several pounds of pressure on it from guitar strings, not to mention continued stress from actual use.

    Ever heard the phrase "measure twice, cut once"? In other words, why take half measures? Chuck the piece you have, and get the correct neck. Do not be in such a rush to finish the project that you compromise it's integrity. Doing the job correctly not only gives one pause for satisfaction, it also creates piece of mind not having to worry or possibly make adjustments in the future because of poor planning or execution in the construction.

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    did she get you an aftermarket body or what? Do you know what kind it is? There are really two reasons I can think of that the screw spacing is different:

    1. The body/neck is from a Squier strat, which are really bad, in which case you should dump that piece.
    2. The body/neck you have is from a newer deluxe with a contoured heel which has one screw offset. This is a good piece, keep it.

    Any chance you can give a little more info and maybe throw up a pic of the pieces?

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    Two words:

    Mighty Putty!

    No, really it shouldn't be a problem if you dowell the holes use a good quality carpenter's glue.

    Chefcraig's point is well taken, but the reality is when putting a project like this together, it's never going to be perfect. You will more than likely have to shim the neck to get the correct angle, where the ideal situation would be a perfect fit in the neck pocket for maximum wood to wood contact. You just can't order parts and get them to fit that perfectly, unless you get a kit specifically designed to fit together.

    Anyway, just do the best you can with what you've got. Experiment with this one and learn some lessons on what and what not to do. You will make mistakes, and learn from them. Then, when you feel comfortable enough, order a kit from frankenstraat, and try your luck with that.
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    Dowell the holes...
    It's a common practice and will work just fine.

    Never "assume" that the holes drilled in any neck are just going to "magically" line up with any other body, even if it's the exact same make and model.
    Chances are, it's just not going to happen.
    Just make sure the neck fits the pocket and check the neck and body to make sure they are both the same scale.

    Dowel your holes and makes sure the surface of the heel is completely flat.
    Then clamp the neck to the body and string up the 1st and 6th strings.
    Shift the neck into position and use these strings to help align the neck properly, then drill your pilot holes from the backside.

    Then remove the neck, take it to your drill press and drill your holes nice and straight ... and please remember to mark your bit so you don't drill through your fretboard.

    Hope this helps.

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    while i understand chef's comments that its always better to have a perfect fit first time, you should be ok with doweling it and re-drilling the correct spacing (just be sure the neck fits the pocket wit no sizable gaps on either side), i did this with my mongrel strat that i built from parts of several strats and a gibson and the only ajustmets i had to make afterwards was to shim the neck (a .75mm guitar pick did the job PERFECTLY) which many top name guitars have done at the factory, so its no bad thing.
    i have to say that the guitar i built is perhaps one of my favourte players and im fortunate enough to have some great guitars....from then on its a quite simple proccess to put together until you get to the wiring, which is simple enough if u know what you're doing but if not then theres plenty of people on here to ask.
    then its just a case of a good set-up again ask here or take it to a luthier (this is the point you'll discover the best shim size to go for)
    plus theres plenty of sites that cover most of this, one i used quite a bit when i started building guitars was http://www.projectguitar.com/menu/tutorial.htm

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    Thanks guys! Dino, your post was especially helpful! I just doweled the holes. Looks like it'll be just fine. I'll be sure to post pics and specs when the guitar is done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chefcraig View Post
    I'm not a luthier. In a former life however, I framed metal and hung drywall. You are saying that you have essentially a hunk of wood with four holes in it, which you plan to fill and then drill four more holes into? Hey, that sounds terrific if you are making a paper-weight for your desk.

    Yet this chunk of wood will have several pounds of pressure on it from guitar strings, not to mention continued stress from actual use.

    Ever heard the phrase "measure twice, cut once"? In other words, why take half measures? Chuck the piece you have, and get the correct neck. Do not be in such a rush to finish the project that you compromise it's integrity. Doing the job correctly not only gives one pause for satisfaction, it also creates piece of mind not having to worry or possibly make adjustments in the future because of poor planning or execution in the construction.

    Simply my take, others may differ.
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    AS usual, Chef is dead wrong. I have doweled holes on a neck many times. It will work just fine. He can't seem to stay out of every single thread. Whether he knows dick( wanted to make sure I get my vulgarities in for Chef) about it or not. Carry on my wayward son!

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    Quote Originally Posted by smme5150 View Post
    AS usual, Chef is dead wrong. I have doweled holes on a neck many times. It will work just fine. He can't seem to stay out of every single thread. Whether he knows dick( wanted to make sure I get my vulgarities in for Chef) about it or not. Carry on my wayward son!
    Uh-huh. Doing something properly (with the correct parts) in the first place is dead wrong. Thanks for the lesson. In the future I'll ask your permission where and when to post.
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    I do have to agree with others, there is no issue with doweling the holes. I go to a great luthier who sets up stuff for huge bands and he's doweled body holes for me before, no issues at all. It shouldn't be a big deal, very common practice.
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