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    Iraq conflict has killed more than a million Iraqis

    LONDON (Reuters) - More than one million Iraqis have died as a result of the conflict in their country since the U.S.-led invasion in 2003, according to research conducted by one of Britain's leading polling groups.
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    The survey, conducted by Opinion Research Business (ORB) with 2,414 adults in face-to-face interviews, found that 20 percent of people had had at least one death in their household as a result of the conflict, rather than natural causes.

    The last complete census in Iraq conducted in 1997 found 4.05 million households in the country, a figure ORB used to calculate that approximately 1.03 million people had died as a result of the war, the researchers found.

    The margin of error in the survey, conducted in August and September 2007, was 1.7 percent, giving a range of deaths of 946,258 to 1.12 million.

    ORB originally found that 1.2 million people had died, but decided to go back and conduct more research in rural areas to make the survey as comprehensive as possible and then came up with the revised figure.

    The research covered 15 of Iraq's 18 provinces. Those that not covered included two of Iraq's more volatile regions -- Kerbala and Anbar -- and the northern province of Arbil, where local authorities refused them a permit to work.

    Estimates of deaths in Iraq have been highly controversial in the past.

    Medical journal The Lancet published a peer-reviewed report in 2004 stating that there had been 100,000 more deaths than would normally be expected since the March 2003 invasion, kicking off a storm of protest.

    The widely watched Web site Iraq Body Count currently estimates that between 80,699 and 88,126 people have died in the conflict, although its methodology and figures have also been questioned by U.S. authorities and others.

    ORB, a non-government-funded group founded in 1994, conducts research for the private, public and voluntary sectors.

    The director of the group, Allan Hyde, said it had no objective other than to record as accurately as possible the number of deaths among the Iraqi population as a result of the invasion and ensuing conflict.
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    Not only their blood.
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    that's one million that won't be suicide bombers.
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    Dude, how many Iraqi suicide bomb were detonated against Americans pre-2003?

    That's right, ZERO!

    For Saddam it was all about being the king of the local playground. The dude was concerned about Iran, Kuwait, etc. I bet he couldn't even locate New York on a map!

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    that's one million that won't be suicide bombers.
    what's wrong with you?
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    updated 7:15 p.m. ET, Wed., Jan. 9, 2008

    About 151,000 Iraqis died from violence in the first three years after the United States invaded, concludes the best effort yet to count deaths — one that still may not settle the fierce debate over the war's true toll on civilians and others.

    The estimate comes from projections by the World Health Organization and the Iraqi government, based on door-to-door surveys of nearly 10,000 households. Experts called it the largest and most scientific study of the Iraqi death toll since the war began.

    Its bottom line is far lower than the 600,000 deaths reported in an earlier study but higher than numbers from other groups tracking the count

    That's from the AP. Big difference in numbers. Yes I know it only is counting the 1st 3 years of the war but you can't tell me that 850,000 have died since 2006. And if they did isn't that good for the environment. That would be a smaller carbon footprint that Iraq has.
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    Well, at least we've got cheap gasoline.
    Oh wait...no that's not it.

    At least we've saved the world from terrorism and we all feel safer.
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    At least the US is still admired by the rest of the world.
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    Somewhere in the middle. The "Iraqi government" isn't going to report figures that makes Big Brother look bad.

    Sad, sad situation. I feel really bad for the Iraqi people (average Joe over there who is just trying to raise his family, like most of us over here). And I feel bad for our troops being in the middle. Those guys should get lottery-style pensions for doing this work. Be safe over there guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IntoTheEther View Post
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    i don't know, Dr. Phil, why don't you take a stab at it?
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    I'm going to go with bullshit on this one.

    It would be great if the number was a million or more but the actual number is about half that.

    Iraqis have a problem telling the truth, always have, always will.

    Either way, fuck 'em.
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    ugh why bother pickin em off one by one when we can nuke the entire region and be done with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by twonabomber View Post
    that's one million that won't be suicide bombers.
    well said, twonabomber!!
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    (See "Berlin Wall" and "Likud Israel" for examples) ” FORD- when i told him i'd build a wall between the US and Mexico.

    then ill build it from the mexican side. -my reply.

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    Not all Iraqis hate us.

    I'm sorry not more of us realize that. Maybe our problem is that we just dont trust brown people.
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