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    Default The Sky Is Falling: Spy satellite falling from orbit

    WASHINGTON - A large U.S. spy satellite has lost power and propulsion and could hit the Earth in late February or March, government officials said Saturday.

    The satellite, which no longer can be controlled, could contain hazardous materials, and it is unknown where on the planet it might come down, they said. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because the information is classified as secret.

    "Appropriate government agencies are monitoring the situation," said Gordon Johndroe, a spokesman for the National Security Council. "Numerous satellites over the years have come out of orbit and fallen harmlessly. We are looking at potential options to mitigate any possible damage this satellite may cause."

    He would not comment on whether it is possible for the satellite to be perhaps shot down by a missile. He said it would be inappropriate to discuss any specifics at this time.

    A senior government official said that lawmakers and other nations are being kept apprised of the situation.

    The largest uncontrolled re-entry by a NASA spacecraft was Skylab, the 78-ton abandoned space station that fell from orbit in 1979. Its debris dropped harmlessly into the Indian Ocean and across a remote section of western Australia.

    In 2000, NASA engineers successfully directed a safe de-orbit of the 17-ton Compton Gamma Ray Observatory, using rockets aboard the satellite to bring it down in a remote part of the Pacific Ocean.

    In 2002, officials believe debris from a 7,000-pound science satellite smacked into the Earth's atmosphere and rained down over the Persian Gulf, a few thousand miles from where they first predicted it would plummet.
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    run for the hills ..............
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    It'll land in the indian ocean like they all do.
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    This will be the mystery object that crashes into the ocean off Coney Island and gives birth to the Cloverfield monster.


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    I prefer Number of the Beast myself...
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    I got dibs on the Pacific since all the other crap is already there. J/K!

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    Quote Originally Posted by EvH_316_5150 View Post
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    Maybe it will fall at the northpole and we can send a sub to get it. Afterwards they can make a movie out of it with Rock Hudson.

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    Quote Originally Posted by edwardv View Post
    Maybe it will fall at the northpole and we can send a sub to get it. Afterwards they can make a movie out of it with Rock Hudson.
    Considering that Tom Clancy had pretty much outright stolen huge chunks of "Ice Station Zebra" to write "The Hunt For Red October" (as did the producers of the film) it's really odd that of all of the films of my youth, this one has never been remade. I mean come on, Hollywood even felt that it was necessary to re-make "The Planet Of The Apes".

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    Quote Originally Posted by chefcraig View Post
    Considering that Tom Clancy had pretty much outright stolen huge chunks of "Ice Station Zebra" to write "The Hunt For Red October" (as did the producers of the film) it's really odd that of all of the films of my youth, this one has never been remade. I mean come on, Hollywood even felt that it was necessary to re-make "The Planet Of The Apes".

    The time may be right for a remake but I dont think Osama has a airforce or navy..Iam sure the Russians or Chinese would still love to have one of our eyes in the sky.

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    That movie any good? Sounds as if it would be right up my alley!

    Don't understand why space junk needs to fall to earth. Couldn't they build an engine in it that gives it one last blast to guide it outward into space when it's determined that the satellite or space station has outlived its usefulness?

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    Quote Originally Posted by billy007 View Post
    That movie any good? Sounds as if it would be right up my alley!
    It was fairly classic, in that it was in and of it's time: "The Cold War". In essence you have the British, the U.S. and the Russians all fighting to get a certain package back that fell to the Earth from a Russian spy satellite.

    In truth, it may not have aged all that well, yet at the time it was quite cutting edge. For proof of this, it has been ripped off time and time again, and even footage from the film has wound up in other movies.

    Still, worth the rental.
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    US: Broken satellite will be shot down

    President Bush has ordered the Pentagon to use a Navy missile to attempt to destroy a broken U.S. spy satellite and thereby minimize the risk to humans from its toxic fuel by intercepting it just before it re-enters the atmosphere, officials said Thursday.

    The effort the first of its kind will be undertaken because of the potential that people in the area where the satellite would otherwise crash could be harmed, the officials said.

    Deputy National Security Adviser James Jeffrey, briefing reporters at the Pentagon, did not say when the attempted intercept would be conducted, but the satellite is expected to hit Earth during the first week of March.

    "This is all about trying to reduce the danger to human beings," Jeffrey said.

    Gen. James Cartwright, vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said at the same briefing that the "window of opportunity" for such a shootdown, presumably to be launched from a Navy ship, will open in the next three or four days and last for seven or eight days. He did not say whether the Pentagon has decided on an exact launch date.

    Cartwright said this will be an unprecedented effort; he would not say exactly what are the odds of success.

    "This is the first time we've used a tactical missile to engage a spacecraft," Cartwright said.

    After extensive study and analysis, U.S. officials came to the conclusion that, "we're better off taking the attempt than not," Cartwright said.

    He said a Navy missile known as Standard Missile 3 would be fired in an attempt to intercept the satellite just prior to it re-entering Earth's atmosphere. It would be "next to impossible" to hit the satellite after that because of atmospheric disturbances, Cartwright said.

    A second goal, he said, is to directly hit the fuel tank in order to minimize the amount of fuel that returns to Earth.

    Software associated with the Standard Missile 3 has been modified to enhance the chances of the missile's sensors recognizing that the satellite is its target; he noted that the missile's designed mission is to shoot down ballistic missiles, not satellites. Other officials said the missile's maximum range, while a classified figure, is not great enough to hit a satellite operating in normal orbits.

    "It's a one-time deal," Cartwright said when asked whether the modified Standard Missile 3 should be considered a new U.S. anti-satellite weapon technology.

    Cartwright also said that if an initial shootdown attempt fails, a decision will be made whether to take a second shot.

    Jeffrey said members of Congress were briefed on the plan earlier Thursday and that diplomatic notifications to other countries would be made before the end of the day.

    Shooting down a satellite is particularly sensitive because of the controversy surrounding China's anti-satellite test last year, when Beijing shot down one of its defunct weather satellites, drawing immediate criticism from the U.S. and other countries.

    A key concern at that time was the debris created by Chinese satellite's destruction � and that will also be a focus now, as the U.S. determines exactly when and under what circumstances to shoot down its errant satellite.

    The military will have to choose a time and a location that will avoid to the greatest degree any damage to other satellites in the sky. Also, there is the possibility that large pieces could remain, and either stay in orbit where they can collide with other satellites or possibly fall to Earth.

    It is not known where the satellite will hit. But officials familiar with the situation say about half of the 5,000-pound spacecraft is expected to survive its blazing descent through the atmosphere and will scatter debris � some of it potentially hazardous � over several hundred miles. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the matter.

    The satellite is outfitted with thrusters � small engines used to position it in space. They contain the toxic rocket fuel hydrazine, which can cause harm to anyone who contacts it. Officials have said there is about 1,000 pounds of propellent on the satellite.

    Known by its military designation US 193, the satellite was launched in December 2006. It lost power and its central computer failed almost immediately afterward, leaving it uncontrollable. It carried a sophisticated and secret imaging sensor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by voivod View Post
    US: Broken satellite will be shot down
    President Bush has ordered the Pentagon to use a Navy missile to attempt to destroy a broken U.S. spy satellite and thereby minimize the risk to humans from its toxic fuel by intercepting it just before it re-enters the atmosphere, officials said Thursday.
    Oh, sweet jesus...so this goes from "Ice Station Zebra" to an episode of the "Simpsons". Remember how that turned out? Yup...the City of Springfield fired a missile at an incoming comet, only to miss it and instead destroy the only bridge out of town.

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