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    This is a true story about someone that I know pretty well that recently got fired from Cessna. I should set it up a little first. The Manager (A male) was VERY friendly with the worker (A female), up until she had been sick with the crud that keeps making it's way around these parts. When she came back, she was also sporting an engagement ring, as her boyfriend of the past 2 years proposed to her while during her absence.

    That's when his change in behavior began. Not only from him, but from the other employees in the department as well. At least at first, then they started to warm back up to her. She had found out later that the manager had been bad mouthing her behind her back and telling the other employees things about her that weren't true. I told her she should report his behavior to HR, but she said she wasn't really happy there, and was getting ready to leave anyway. I still think she should have reported the prick!

    Then, during a meeting, the company was giving itself some serious praise and the woman said "I don't know if it is such a good idea to be tooting our horn when we've had two planes go down due to mechanical failure in the last month."

    The conversation on her last day went something like this:

    Managers: You've missed work again, I know you've had a run of bad luck being sick, but I want to talk to you about being more dedicated to our Elite Mustang Team.

    Employee: Hee Hee Giggle, Giggle. (She said that part of the reason that this was so funny is that she imagined the "Elite Mustang Team" running around there working with little green berets on. )

    Managers: Can I ask you what's so funny?

    Employee: Well, I think your Elite Mustang Team is a fucking joke. A real team doesn't have a bunch of fucking backstabbers in it.

    Comment by Employee: As I'm saying this their mouths are hanging open in disbelief. Which was pretty funny looking too. That made me giggle even more.

    Employee: I don't like your team and I fucking hate Cessna!

    Managers: Well, I guess if you really feel that way we are going to have to terminate you at this time.

    Employee: That's fine with me, I still don't feel very good, I'm tired, and I'd really like to go back to bed.

    Comment by Employee: And so my career as an Elite Mustang Team Member (Glorified name for adding bondo and sanding the jet) came to an end. Don't miss it a bit either!!!
    And so ended her career at Cessna as a part of the "Elite Mustang Team".

    Having worked at Cessna, I'm not a bit surprised. It seems like the old "Team" bullshit is still in full swing, and probably even worse than it was while I was there. Most of the idiots they have in charge of that "Team" concept thing have probably never participated in a true "Team" environment, and really have no clue whatsoever what it entails.
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    I might be a little off topic here, but I can relate to the "team bullshit" that you speak of here. Everything I learned in high school and college regarding career training and making it in today's American workforce revolved around fitting into a "team" or a "group" and being able to succeed NOT as an individual, but achieving success as a group or team.
    Well, as a 29 year old male that has been employed with the same organization for 9 years now, at least where I work, the whole "group" or "team" thing is just a giant facade. What a crock of shit. The real world and American workforce involves a whole lotta every man for himself and stab whoever you can in the back to get yourself ahead. Nobody in the real world (workforce) REALLY gives a flying fuck about anyone else and you just have to look out for yourself and your family.

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    Well how about doctors and nurses?

    I thought they were meant to work as a team. Or pilots and ground control.
    Or the military.

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    I think the problem is that everyone understands that a good "team" is exactly what you want in your organization, but few people really know how to put one together or manage it.







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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullwinkle View Post
    I think the problem is that everyone understands that a good "team" is exactly what you want in your organization, but few people really know how to put one together or manage it.
    Bingo!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullwinkle View Post
    I think the problem is that everyone understands that a good "team" is exactly what you want in your organization, but few people really know how to put one together or manage it.
    Because you don't "put one together", or "manage it". A team develops through hiring good people, giving them meaningful work, and having good managers recognize and support that work. The "team" develops from there.

    It's alway, always, ALWAYS about the managers. A good manager hires great people, gives them the resources to get their jobs done, and then gets the fuck out of their way. Miraculously, that becomes a "good team".

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    I hate it when you are constantly being told " we are a team!!". Nothing worse than cramming something down your throat, especially when those members of the team feel its a joke.

    A bad manager is always the most clueless.
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    Yep, my deputy manager is exactly like that. It is ironic when you think that everyone in your 'team' gets paid just over $12 per hour and they really couldn't give a damn.

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    The best radio station I worked for had a great team from the top down. The General Manager, Sales Manager, Sales staff, and on-air staff, all worked together like a team should. We were seamless.

    The owner of the company had this philosophy.

    "The best manager (leader), is the one that get's the best out of their people, and takes none of the credit when that team is successful. But will share in the blame when the team doesn't perform up to expectations."

    Basically what she was saying is that, the departmental managers will get their praise privately from the people above them; but will openly, loudly and joyfully celebrate and trumpet the teams success to those under them. And will be the first one to take critisizm when it fails. That the best, and most successful leaders, are the ones that lead without having to say a word or receive them in return.
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    I hope she had a job first...if not, that was pretty stupid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Interceptor View Post
    Nobody in the real world (workforce) REALLY gives a flying fuck about anyone else and you just have to look out for yourself and your family.
    I would hope at an airplane manufacturing plant, someone would give a flying fuck! Seriously...you're right about looking out for yourself and your family. I don't care how trusting people seem. You can't really trust anybody except yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pabs View Post
    I hope she had a job first...if not, that was pretty stupid.
    Hey, haven't heard from you from a while. How are the Bears doing?

    I have to add that she didn't have a job lined up when she quit, but that doesn't make her stupid. Why put up with the bullshit when you don't have to. Plus, her fiance makes good money. Anything she makes is just extra money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viking View Post
    Hey, haven't heard from you from a while. How are the Bears doing?

    I have to add that she didn't have a job lined up when she quit, but that doesn't make her stupid. Why put up with the bullshit when you don't have to. Plus, her fiance makes good money. Anything she makes is just extra money.
    I guess if you don't need money, then fine. It's better to tell them to go to hell when you have a job.

    The Bears are about as good as the Vikings...watching on the couch.

    Wake me up when the Vikings win a playoff game.
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    The Pilgrims/Americans/Somersets whatever you want to call them, have NEVER displayed "SOX" anywhere on their caps, jerseys, or merchandise, therefore they shouldn't be referred to as such. However, the White Sox have used "SOX" since 1912.

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