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    Default US Farmers Show Grass Makes Better Ethanol than Corn

    Farmers in Nebraska and the Dakotas have worked with the USDA to plant switchgrass and measure the native plant's ability to deliver Ethanol more efficiently than corn. The results are dramatic. Switchgrass delivers 540 percent of the energy used to produce it, compared with just roughly 25 percent returned by traditional corn-based ethanol.

    Check out the Scientific American article that discusses the work of plant scientists and farmers that show that "switchgrass will store enough carbon in its relatively permanent root system to offset 94 percent of the greenhouse gases emitted both to cultivate it and from the derived ethanol burned by vehicles."

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    Haha, grass vodka. Lmfao

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    i've read and seen a lot about this switchgrass thing...seems to be a MUCH better deal but corn growers have been lobbying longer...

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    I don't know much about farming, but if switchgrass was that much better, I would stop lobbying for corn and start planting switchgrass. But that's just me.
    CNN may think my opinion matters, but you shouldn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsbll4 View Post
    I don't know much about farming, but if switchgrass was that much better, I would stop lobbying for corn and start planting switchgrass. But that's just me.
    And me.

    The amount of people that can be fed from the corn used to make fuel is tremendous...ridiculous actually.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seenbad View Post
    And me.

    The amount of people that can be fed from the corn used to make fuel is tremendous...ridiculous actually.
    Or the amount of livestock that can be fed. They are saying the reason milk prices have skyrocketed is because of the cost to feed the dairy cows has increased since so much of the corn is now being used for ethanol.

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    "Food, Fuel and Fiber"

    That pretty much sums up life, doesn't it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by loveevhsince79 View Post
    Or the amount of livestock that can be fed. They are saying the reason milk prices have skyrocketed is because of the cost to feed the dairy cows has increased since so much of the corn is now being used for ethanol.
    Not to mention the cost of tortillas. And no, I'm not kidding.

    Perhaps this "feed" deal is the reasoning behind a carton of eggs now costing nearly three dollars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VegasVic View Post
    "Food, Fuel and Fiber"

    That pretty much sums up life, doesn't it?
    urr your forgot FORNICATION....
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    Soylent Green, anyone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeL View Post
    Soylent Green, anyone?

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    If grass is so much cheaper, how come I'm still paying a hundred bucks for just an ounce?







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    Quote Originally Posted by voivod View Post
    urr your forgot FORNICATION....
    Cornication.
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    Another type of grass or weed also has very high energy potential but as of now it is illegal. Check out marijuana and the energy it can produce. You can also use the seeds for nutrition much like any grains.

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    the corn farmers have been making a killing these past several years, both in terms of increased prices for their product AND government subsidies...everything I've read and seen about switchgrass is that it is WAY more efficient in terms of an energy producer AND it grows faster and doesn't affect the soil in the same way. A farmer may correct me, but I believe in order to grow the amounts of corn necessary they have to use twice the land because the soil has to "rest" between corn crops and as such they have to rotate acreage. If my understanding is correct, this is not the case with switchgrass. Add in the fact that corn is already used for so many OTHER things and it seems to me that switchgrass is a superior crop...but then again, I'm not a corn farmer making a killing right now so what do I know?

    I'm also a huge fan of bamboo...that shit grows anywhere, grows fast and can be used for ANYTHING....they can make paper, clothing, sheets, you name it. I'm not sure about the potential of using it for fuel, but I'm a big fan of using it for just about anything else.

 

 

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