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    Default Are Ed and Al US citizens??

    Anybody know?? Just curious if the bros ever took the US citizenship test....I'm assuming they would have, but does anyone know for certain?

    Wouldn't it be ironic if the band all of us refer to as the greatest American band of all time had two individuals that weren't even US citizens??

    For the record, I am not trying to start any shit here. I love Ed and Al, and as far as I'm concerned they are as American as I am.....just curious is all.

    P.S. Wasn't Ed held up at an airport many years ago for having a handgun in his luggage?? Not sure if I am remembering this right or not (sorry if no) but I wonder if his citizenship would have played a role in the outcome, and....hell what was the outcome?? Did he get probation, or anything?? Sorry if I'm confusing Ed for someone else in this situation!!

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    Yes they are and have been for a long, long time. Ed got probation for the gun thing.
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    Here's how it works:

    Process of Citizenship
    After the process of applying and being given permission to reside in the United States, immigrants of any type may apply to become citizens of the US. The process is outlined below following acceptance as a permanent resident.
    Step 1: Individual must become a lawful permanent resident
    Step 2: After five years of being a resident in the US an individual can apply for citizenship, they must be at least 18 years old (if they are under 18 years old children of US citizens can become citizens when their parents do)
    Step 3: An application is filed at the Department of Homeland Security(DHS) which also includes a fee.
    Step 4: The individual must pass a basic reading, writing and historytest to prove some basic understanding of the English language and American History.
    Step 5: The individual is then called in to an interview by a DHS officer to have confirmation that the person has a true desire to become an American citizen.
    Step 6: Once they have gone through the interview process, the individual must take an oath called “The Oath of Renunciation and Allegiance”, promising that they will defend the US Constitution, support US laws and serve in the armed forces if so asked.
    Step 7: The final step is where the individual is officially sworn inas a US citizen, in front of a judge or DHS official. After which they will receive a Certificate of Citizenship.
    Once an individual has completed these steps they have the same rights and privileges as any other citizen, they can vote, sit on a jury, hold most elective offices (except the presidency, you have to be a “natural” born citizen to become President)

    If the brothers Van Halen completed those steps, then they are citizens. Since they no doubt have had to file substantial tax returns over the years, it would seem likely that they are indeed U.S. citizens. Also, when they first toured overseas, getting back in the country would have proven to be a difficulty if in fact they were non-residents.

    From: http://www.ailf.org/pubed/immigration_overview.pdf
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    I just always assumed that they were American citizen....but always a good lesson NEVER to assume even if you are correct........................................... ...well then.................time to carry on............................................
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    Thanks fellas, nice to know!!

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    They are U.S. citizens, but neither can run for president.

    Ed has always said the gun thing was an accident--that he forgot it was in his bag.

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    They're just playing the rock music that Americans don't want to play.
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    Wasn't that print ad for the milk promotion part of Ed's probation deal from that gun charge as well?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AndrewThomas.net View Post
    They are U.S. citizens, but neither can run for president.
    Yup, that's part of the rules listed above. Yet then again Andrew, could you truly fathom Alex Van Halen, as an extension of his brother the President, leading the nation as "Secretary Of State", let alone assuming Bobby Kennedy's role on crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Axxman300 View Post
    They're just playing the rock music that Americans don't want to play.
    Brilliant, as well as outstandingly keen insight.
    Nicely done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by onefootoutthedoor View Post
    Wasn't that print ad for the milk promotion part of Ed's probation deal from that gun charge as well?
    Could not find anything on that, other than the ad itself, ect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axxman300 View Post
    They're just playing the rock music that Americans don't want to play.
    LOL. Any truth to the rumor that the gun had red, white and black stripes on it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett View Post
    Yes they are and have been for a long, long time. Ed got probation for the gun thing.
    Imagine what would of happened to him if he took a loaded gun on a plane these days...

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    Quote Originally Posted by chefcraig View Post
    Yup, that's part of the rules listed above. Yet then again Andrew, could you truly fathom Alex Van Halen, as an extension of his brother the President?


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    You can't be in two countries at the same time!
    A little more volume in the headphones please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chefcraig View Post
    If the brothers Van Halen completed those steps, then they are citizens. Since they no doubt have had to file substantial tax returns over the years, it would seem likely that they are indeed U.S. citizens. Also, when they first toured overseas, getting back in the country would have proven to be a difficulty if in fact they were non-residents.
    You don't have to be a US citizen to file US tax returns and resident isn't the same as citizen. They would have had no problem getting back in if they were green card holders.
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