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    i totaly agree, i bet someone got fired that night!

    they should have changed the chorus to "oooooh oh oh eddie's cryin'"

    why the fuck wasnt someone on the stage sortin the shit out i'd have stopped playin and thrown that monitor at someones head then stabbed them with the mic stand...lol
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    I was at this show. Total lack of communication there between Ed and the "behind the scenes" crew. As someone who has worked/performed on a live show, it really sucks to be the guy "out there" when things go wrong. Ed seems like he's being an asshole here, but at the end of the day if things look or sound bad it is his fault in the court of public opinion. Just check this board and see all the criticisms about his sound and playing. I'm not sayng he handled this 100% properly, but it does suck when you look bad due to someone else's mistake.

    Did he flip out too much? I'm not sure. I was in the audience and don't even recall it being that big of a deal. It was one song out of 25 or so. It looks much worse up close and singled out like that.

    Ed sure ain't perfect, and when something like this happens people love to jump on and point out what an ass he is. But in this case, Timmy makes a great point when he says Ed's losing it is justified.

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    I don't know, guys...I'm not too sure about Ed's actions being justified.

    First off, I've also been on both sides of live sound issues: behind the console tweaking levels to chase away feedback or to make the musicians happy with the monitors...as well as standing onstage sometimes powerless and utterly frustrated with (usually) the "house" sound guy's inability to chase away the feedback or get the monitors at the right mix/level.

    Granted, between the Wolfgang 2 and the 5150 III, Ed's equipment these days is about the hottest he's ever had, but SOMEBODY, SOMEWHERE on that sound crew HAS to know how to solve these sound issues plaguing this tour since it's inception.

    Yeah, I do understand Ed's frustrations coming out in that clip..."Jamie's Cryin'" is DEEP in the setlist, and he might have been fighting that monitor for nearly two hours.

    BUT, usually, after about the third song or so, if that monitor (or ANY troublesome piece of equipment) can't be dialed in to "behave"...UNPLUG IT, for f*ck's sake.

    As hard as it is to believe, even if Ed DOESN'T have any sound professionals working with him on this tour, HE STILL IS A PRO, with THIRTY YEARS of touring experience behind him. He HAS TO KNOW the easiest solution is to just unplug it and move on.

    Ultimately though, imo, there's no need to act like a 5-year-old at naptime.

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    maybe thats why ed keeps firing people. every tech he hires seem to be inept and incapable of doin their job and make ed look like the ass on stage.
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    That guy better be wearing a cup.
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    where did he lose it
    I used to wonder why he was grinning all the time(Michael Ian Black talkin about EVH on VH1 I love the 80's) but then i realized the reason he's grinning is because he's Eddie F*#king Van Halen

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    Quote Originally Posted by hubs View Post
    I don't know, guys...I'm not too sure about Ed's actions being justified.

    First off, I've also been on both sides of live sound issues: behind the console tweaking levels to chase away feedback or to make the musicians happy with the monitors...as well as standing onstage sometimes powerless and utterly frustrated with (usually) the "house" sound guy's inability to chase away the feedback or get the monitors at the right mix/level.

    Granted, between the Wolfgang 2 and the 5150 III, Ed's equipment these days is about the hottest he's ever had, but SOMEBODY, SOMEWHERE on that sound crew HAS to know how to solve these sound issues plaguing this tour since it's inception.

    Yeah, I do understand Ed's frustrations coming out in that clip..."Jamie's Cryin'" is DEEP in the setlist, and he might have been fighting that monitor for nearly two hours.

    BUT, usually, after about the third song or so, if that monitor (or ANY troublesome piece of equipment) can't be dialed in to "behave"...UNPLUG IT, for f*ck's sake.

    As hard as it is to believe, even if Ed DOESN'T have any sound professionals working with him on this tour, HE STILL IS A PRO, with THIRTY YEARS of touring experience behind him. He HAS TO KNOW the easiest solution is to just unplug it and move on.

    Ultimately though, imo, there's no need to act like a 5-year-old at naptime.
    But when you have told your fans specifically "Judge us and judge us harshly" and many of those same fans do not have your background in dealing with these problems, I can see him getting pissed. Let's face it, the guy was run through the wringer the last tour (granted because of his own doing) and I think he is trying hard to redeem himself and deliver the goods. And I think we have all lost our tempers when we should not have and thrown something in frustration. Yeah, it's not a "mature" thing to do but it happens.

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    Was this from the infamous New Jersey show from October?

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    Nevermind Ed, look how Roth never even let it get to him. He never once stopped doing what he does best. Same goes for the rest of the band. As for Ed he should have stopped playing for 15 seconds while his tech handed him another guitar. Had to be the longest 4:30 of his life.
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    God did his guitar ever go out of tune after he banged the head-stock on the stage...

    In 2004 when he did that it didn't go out of tune....

    I've judged Ed pretty harshly over his tech problems this tour...but this just seemed inexcusable in regards to his tech crew...NOBODY was on stage trying to resolve the problem even if they knew it couldn't be resolved by going on stage....I mean the guy is dying up there...help him out!
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    I'm sorry, but that's unprofessional on a few different levels.

    First of all, whatever goes wrong, you don't let it effect the performance. Throwing a hissy fit on stage in the middle of a song is just childish. You fix the problems after the show or between songs if you can, but you don't ruin the show. If the audience can't tell there's a problem, then just keep playing.

    Second, how many weeks of rehearsal did they have? Come on! That's what the damn rehearsal is for--to iron out any problems that might occur.
    I'm sure that every musician here has had to play shows where you just run on stage, plug in, and start playing. Sometimes you can't hear yourself, sometimes you're too loud, but you just go for it and get through it.
    Ed had hours and hours to set this stuff up with a team of professionals helping him out. And he's playing on the same stage every night. There is no reason he should still be having problems.







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    Quote Originally Posted by EvH_316_5150 View Post
    God did his guitar ever go out of tune after he banged the head-stock on the stage...

    In 2004 when he did that it didn't go out of tune....
    No, it was already out of tune when he hit the stage in '04. Seriously, Humans Being was like the third or fourth song in their setlist and he was out of tune on the intro to that song in at least 3 bootlegs I heard from the tour. He didn't beat the headstock on the floor in the first 3 songs, did he?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullwinkle View Post
    I'm sorry, but that's unprofessional on a few different levels.

    First of all, whatever goes wrong, you don't let it effect the performance. Throwing a hissy fit on stage in the middle of a song is just childish. You fix the problems after the show or between songs if you can, but you don't ruin the show. If the audience can't tell there's a problem, then just keep playing.

    Second, how many weeks of rehearsal did they have? Come on! That's what the damn rehearsal is for--to iron out any problems that might occur.
    I'm sure that every musician here has had to play shows where you just run on stage, plug in, and start playing. Sometimes you can't hear yourself, sometimes you're too loud, but you just go for it and get through it.
    Ed had hours and hours to set this stuff up with a team of professionals helping him out. And he's playing on the same stage every night. There is no reason he should still be having problems.
    Agreed. But this is an old subject from a show way in the past that has been discussed before, and I don't really understand why it was brought up again. Ed had the hissy-fit and let us see he's still got some of the weird Ed left in him. He's been better since then.
    We train dogs for cattle and sheep herding. They're very different. Sheep are a lot like supermodels - they bunch together, they rattle very easily. Cattle are like drunks at a hockey game - two will want to fight: "Who are you and what's with your badge?"

    Two of them will be like: "Leave them alone, let's go see the game." Another one is lost: "Where'd you guys go?" The dog has to deal with all of that. You work them off a whistle. It's the original video game.
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    Because TT isn't around 24/7 so he probably knew never this was brought up before.
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