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    (Pulled this from vh@yahoogroups.com):

    David Lee Roth and Van Halen together again
    by Ryan White, San Diego Union Tribune

    David Lee Roth and Eddie Van Halen at Cox Arena in San Diego
    Growing up, Alex and Gabe were brothers who lived two floors above my
    brother and me. Like us, they were four years apart but two years
    older. They had Intellivision and cable, while we had Atari and an
    antenna. Their apartment was the cooler place to play. I was 9, on my
    way to 10 by the end of the summer.

    "You gotta see this video," Alex said one day, flipping the
    television to MTV. "This guy does all these crazy kicks." And crazy
    kicks were cool because we were going to be ninjas when we grew up,
    and a ninja has to know how to kick. Being 1984, there weren't dozens
    of dating shows and hours of faked drama on MTV, so it wasn't long
    until Van Halen's "Jump" played and this guy was, indeed, doing crazy
    kicks. Alex said the guy's name was David Lee Roth. We watched, and
    then returned to playing with our Transformers.

    A friend had a friend whose brother and his friends were also going
    to the Van Halen concert. We could ride with them. They were in
    college. They'd have beer. This was just before my senior year in
    high school and I was pretty sure I didn't even like beer, but beer
    seemed vitally important because it was Van Halen, man.

    This was the night that the Trans-Am Quotient was invented. A not-so-
    complicated calculation measuring the number of people at a show
    against the number of Trans-Ams in the parking lot, the math was made
    much easier by the fact that the concert was in suburban Detroit.
    There were two -- and only two -- correct answers: high and extremely
    high.

    Roth was long gone. Sammy Hagar was in, and good, and Eddie Van Halen
    was this bouncing, grinning, scissor-kicking, guitar-slinging flurry
    of hair and brilliance and I was convinced that show was the
    greatest, most joyous thing I'd ever witnessed. Soon after, I owned
    every Van Halen record - and a guitar. That was in 1991.

    * * * *
    My editor, via e-mail: "Would you be interested in writing about Van
    Halen?"

    Absolutely. But the band and I have developed a difficult
    relationship over the past 16 years. Then again, what is Van Halen
    but more than 30 years of difficult relationships?

    * * * *
    What is there to say about nostalgia that Lou Reed hasn't already
    said? It's a hard thing to like -- unless it's yours. And so it
    should be a questionable proposition, this Van Halen tour that
    arrives at the Rose Garden arena Saturday night.

    Roth is for-real back in the band for the first time in 22 years, and
    they aren't playing a single song that isn't at least seven years
    older than the new bass player, Wolfgang Van Halen, Eddie's 16-year-
    old son. It has been three years since the band released new music of
    any kind (three songs with Hagar on a best-of). It's been 11 years
    since the last new tunes with Roth (two songs on a best-of). Eddie
    was last heard scoring a porn flick shortly before checking into
    rehab. Roth has been both a New York City paramedic and Howard
    Stern's doomed replacement on the radio.

    What then to say about three guys and a kid who get together to play
    songs they haven't played in more than two decades and don't add a
    lick of new licks? Remember when?

    When every teacher was hot? When every prom queen was the next Jenna
    Jameson? When you were headed for a whole lot of trouble if you took
    your whiskey home? When you could dance the night away, but if all
    else failed, well, you might as well jump? Those were the days. There
    was a hot tub in every backyard and a cheerleader in every hot tub
    and we ain't talkin' 'bout love, man. Life was a huge stack of amps
    ripped to 11 and it was fun -- even if it was Van Halen's life, not
    ours.

    Remember when?From that moment in 1978, on the band's self-titled
    debut album, when Eddie tore into his signature solo, "Eruption," and
    jolted rock out of the 1970s . . . until 1985, when Roth split to do
    cheesy cover tunes, Van Halen created a landscape. Having themselves
    emerged from the party scene of the Los Angeles suburbs, in six
    albums with Roth, Van Halen gave suburban American kids a Big Rock
    Candy Mountain to call their own. Everyone was invited to the party
    and everyone was expected to dance.
    Then that Van Halen had to die. It did. Roth had to go. If you don't
    believe that, look at his solo work, and think about what the ensuing
    Van Halen records would have sounded like after that combustible
    relationship settled into settling, and how they would have
    eventually ended up with Elton John's job substitute teaching for
    Celine Dion at Caesar's Palace.

    Roth left and Hagar came in and the band moved from not talking about
    love (wink-wink) to wondering why this can't be love, singing about
    when it's love. The party continued but with just a little more
    heart. If David Lee Roth was Van Halen's teenage id, then Sammy Hagar
    was the band's, oh, slightly more mature 20s id. Then in 1996, down
    went Hagar after an argument with Eddie who, if we're going to keep
    casting the group's psyche, has played id, ego and super-ego.

    Gary Cherone, formerly of Extreme, joined later in 1996. Far more ego
    than id, he was perfectly happy to sing Hagar songs and Roth songs.
    He seemed to be, and by all accounts was, happy to be there at all.
    They put out one album, did a tour, and that was that. Van Halen
    entered that period of wandering familiar to anyone approaching his
    30s.

    The brothers Van Halen -- Eddie and Alex -- went through health
    problems and substance abuse problems and marriage problems. Bassist
    Michael Anthony began spending more and more time with Hagar, who was
    himself busy branding himself as Tropical Hard Rock Party Guy,
    complete with a club in Cabo and a brand of tequila named after it.

    In 2004 Hagar rejoined the group long enough to hit the road for a
    tour that was, by most accounts, a disaster, a result foreshadowed by
    the three terrible songs they did for a two-disc career
    retrospective. After the tour Hagar slipped back into Jimmy Buffett
    mode and Eddie slipped back out of sight, showing up in public
    rarely, and when he did, he looked like hell.

    This was sad. Van Halen had mattered. Every few years a Roth rumor
    would fire up and I'd get an excited e-mail from a friend with a
    subject usually along the lines of "The Mighty Van Halen!" I didn't
    care. I'd moved on. I was older. My life was more complicated. The
    world was more complicated. I was looking for artists who addressed
    that. I got deep into Bob Dylan and Bruce Springsteen and a whole
    host of singer-songwriters and confused poetic romantics. Van Halen
    became a memory that occupied the back end of my alphabetized CD
    collection, because someone had to come before Tom Waits and Warren
    Zevon.

    Roth is really back. And Van Halen is really on the road with him,
    and they are playing really old, kick-butt songs. People are digging
    it. Critics are digging it. It seems to be working. They're adding
    dates. No one thought they'd add dates.

    It's tempting to look at the reaction and think, We're living in
    angry times. We're divided in so many ways. No one gets along.
    Everyone's yelling. We're at war. The economy is teetering.
    Hollywood's writers are striking. Things are tough all over. Now,
    more than in a long, long time, we need Van Halen. We need a good
    time.

    To think that, however, might be to ascribe more meaning that this
    tour deserves. Van Halen is not a band deep in meaning -- unless you
    count Roth's little stage trick where he manages to make a top hat
    levitate in front of his crotch.

    Maybe you could argue the tour is about redemption and the resiliency
    of the human spirit. That it's about how no matter the differences,
    people can come together and work things out. We can get along.
    Peace. This is about peace.

    But I don't buy that either. This tour is about nostalgia, period.

    A few weeks ago, I loaded all the Roth-era discs onto my iPod, which
    I then plugged into my home theater system and turned up to ear-
    splitting levels. I grinned while my foot tapped. My mind searched
    and found the lyrics still lodged in there. I found my inner air
    guitarist.

    Lou Reed was right. Nostalgia is a hard thing to like unless it's
    yours. But Van Halen's been around for nearly 30 years, serving part
    of that time as the nation's biggest, loudest, fastest rock 'n' roll
    band. Somewhere along the line, Van Halen's nostalgia became our
    nostalgia, too. That's why this works.
    "Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that."

    "This is a lttle prayer dedicated to the separation of church and state. I guess if they are going to force those kids to pray in schools they might as well have a nice prayer like this: Our Father who art in heaven, and to the republic for which it stands, thy kingdom come, one nation indivisible as in heaven, give us this day as we forgive those who so proudly we hail. Crown thy good into temptation but deliver us from the twilight's last gleaming. Amen and Awomen. ."

    "I think it's the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately."

    -George Carlin 1937 - 2008

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    Sums up my take on VH 2007 and my reasoning for going to the show and being emotionally engaged with this band after all these years of ups and downs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by looper_guy View Post
    Sums up my take on VH 2007 and my reasoning for going to the show and being emotionally engaged with this band after all these years of ups and downs.
    I think some of these writers have better drugs than the band. It has been great, but just think for a moment, how HUGE this would be with MA!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Default On a More Lighter Note and if you're a Ravens Fan...

    This was in today's Baltimore Sun....some teammates played a joke on him using a logo looking alot like his favorite band ....

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    Mike Flynn, P.I.
    Center Mike Flynn said he has identified the mastermind behind the production of T-shirts bearing the words The Mike Flynn Farewell Tour.

    The long-sleeved black T-shirts list every game and date this season, and the MF initials look eerily like the VH symbol for Van Halen, which perhaps not coincidentally is one of Flynns favorite bands. A shirt was hung in each players locker about two weeks ago.

    I know who did it, and that person knows that he did a bad deed, said Flynn, who declined to name the culprit. It was funny. The guys are funny. It was good for a joke and everything. Usually, when you dish it out, youve got to expect some punishment back. I accept my punishment. They got me, and the guy who I know did it, I give him a hard time, too. So I guess what goes around, comes around.

    Few players would discuss the shirts, much less venture a guess on the creative mind behind the project. Defensive tackle Justin Bannan said, I think I know who made them, but I cant tell you.

    Added fullback Justin Green: I dont know, but its a good-looking shirt. Ill always take a free shirt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by looper_guy View Post
    Sums up my take on VH 2007 and my reasoning for going to the show and being emotionally engaged with this band after all these years of ups and downs.
    Yep, come Jan 28 in Houston I'll be able to leave the world outside of the Toyota Center and jam to the greatest rock band God ever put on this earth!

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    But EVH promised VH would never become a nostalgia band. I can't really admit to myself that they are. EVH promised there would be no tour without new music. He broke his promised and let a lot of fan down (even though for a lot of others it doesn't seem to matter).
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    He also promised if Gary Cherone left the would play Tuba, but people went to go see the 04 tour.

    I'll take Van Halen with David Lee Roth any way I can take it.
    CNN may think my opinion matters, but you shouldn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Dreamer View Post
    But EVH promised VH would never become a nostalgia band. I can't really admit to myself that they are. EVH promised there would be no tour without new music. He broke his promised and let a lot of fan down (even though for a lot of others it doesn't seem to matter).
    Agree. Yes, this is a nostalgia tour vice a reunion tour. Not that a nostalgia tour is necessarily bad, but our hopes were raised thinking there'd be some new music. I would love to mix some new VH songs in with the classic, never-get-old VH tunes.

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    Van Halen aint nostalgia to us.

    We are die-hards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VH1988 View Post
    Van Halen aint nostalgia to us.

    We are die-hards.
    I'm a diehard too and never get tired of hearing VH no matter what phase they were in. Just had my hopes up that we'd hear some new stuff from EVH and DLR collaborating. Maybe someday.....maybe someday.....

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    You know what? 75% of classic Van Halen is out on tour. Shut the fuck up and be happy about it.

    Thanks for the article Vince.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axxman300 View Post
    You know what? 75% of classic Van Halen is out on tour. Shut the fuck up and be happy about it.
    That's been the ratio since 1985.
    Posted from yo' mama's house.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Axxman300 View Post
    You know what? 75% of classic Van Halen is out on tour. Shut the fuck up and be happy about it.

    Thanks for the article Vince.
    What the hell does that prove?? 75% of "classic VH" has been together since 1985 .......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axxman300 View Post
    You know what? 75% of classic Van Halen is out on tour. Shut the fuck up and be happy about it.

    Thanks for the article Vince.
    Lighten up Francis !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axxman300 View Post
    You know what? 75% of classic Van Halen is out on tour. Shut the fuck up and be happy about it.

    Thanks for the article Vince.
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