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    Default a journey from the common squire to VH1 frankie!

    hey members, mike in k.c. here. just got enough posts to finally start a thread. i have been working on transforming my 03 fender affinity series squire strat from stock to shock. i started about 2 weeks ago with disassembly and have progressed to the striped VH1 frankie as of tonight, 11-29-07. i know it's been done to death, but not by me and i thought it would be helpful to see it done step by step for those that might think it was too intimidating.


    my guitar was routed for dual humbuckers so i had to make a "plug" to fill the neck pickup cavity. then traced the middle single coil cavity and used a friends roto-zip to cut the new cavity and enlarge the bridge pickup cavity. same for the gnarley center area where the switch will reside. i used gorilla glue in the neck plug, and a new elmers wood filler in a tube. that stuff worked great! sanded everything smooth and primed, painted, masked, and more paint. the red will come along in over the weekend i think. i bought a maple/maple starcaster neck off of ebay that will be my frankies new neck. not 100% correct, but it will do fine for my purpose which is to play it! gonna get my licensed floyd from www.grizzley.com i know, grizzley sells woodworking, and metal working supplies, but now they are into guitar kits, guitar making supplies and guitar parts. there floyd looks to be better than the ebay cheapies, and it's only $100.00. i'm getting the floyd and the bridge pickup for christmas. the pickup will be syemour duncan, but not sure which one. probably not gonna spend the extra dough on the evh custom or whatever they're calling it now. any way, thanks for checking it out. i am a total rookie, but if there is anyone with questions, i'll be glad to help. mike in k.c. http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i6...kensquire1.jpg
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    Looks Cool Man!! Love seein' the homemades.

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    Thanks! I've wanted to see full process photos for a long time. It looks awesome.

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    Cool man....

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    That's awesome man.

    I've thought about doing that to my Squire, but I've held off. I figure that once I have enough money and time to do it, I might as well just buy a kit from divebomb and get the real thing. But that's a year or two down the line.

    Will your Floyd Rose fit the squire or will you have to route that to fit?

    Also, how hard was it to make the fillers for the pickup and then make it look smooth and natural when you were done?

    It looks great! Make sure you post the finished product
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    Nice job!

    If you're gonna spend $100 on a trem, you may want to consider spending just $40 more and getting a Ping.

    http://www.axcessories.com/proddetai...prod=axfrpingc

    Just a thought.

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    thanks for the kind words folks! as for the difficulty making the plug, it was very easy. i was looking for a chunk of maple for its hardness and i found some poplar at a custom home interior builders shop next to my work and they gave me a 1"x3"x5' leftover piece. i had to laminate 2 pieces because my cavity depth was to deep for just one layer. then used the gorilla glue and sanded with a 1'4 sheet orbital sander. i also used the elmers wood filler to fill in the wood grain and primed the heck out of that area as well. the rest was paint and tape. and as far as the tremolo, i will go with the ping, it is way nicer looking and probably better quality and it has the correct looking logo. thanks for finding that for me. i will have additional pics this weekend. thanks, mike in k.c.
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    oh, and as far as the floyd install? since my floyd will sit on the body instead of recessed into the body, i think it is just a matter locating for correct intonation and alignment. i am not a guitar builder, but just as i do with everything else, i measure twice and cut once! mike in k.c.
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    Nice, I am trying to find an insanley cheap squier or get one for free so I can also do this!

    Your's looks really good.

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    well, it's red, white and black!!! the stripes have a few minor discrepancies, but overall i think it is pretty dead-on cosmetically. i have not decided wether or not to age it. i hate like hell to grind and beat on this thing. i may just finish out the neck and hardware and just leave it be. the reflectors are on there way, the neck is on the way. the ping/floyd and the bridge pickup are going to have to wait until christmas. if anyone is planning on attempting this, i say pay close attention to the black and white version striping. this will be very handy when masking for the red paint. i suggest going to www.musiciansfriend.com and looking up the charvel art series and saving all of the photos available, and look up the $25,000.00 replica pics and save them too. they are what you need to get this thing right. i can't stress how important they are to getting as close as possible to the real deal cosmetically. as for paint, i used krylon, red, white, black and clear. 3/4" masking tape for the black and white version. no need for 1/8" pinstripe if you are going right on to the r/w/b version. and i used 3/4" again for the r/w/b version as well as 1". for the narrow stripes you see in the r/w/b version, i just cut down length wise the 3/4" tape to make 3, 1/4" pieces where you see the smallest stripes. this final masking should take you about 2 hours and you really have to pay close attention to the weird geometric shapes that you are really creating by laying out the different size tapes. each i only sprayed 2 coats of the red to keep the black still visible under the red. i removed the tape about an hour after my last coat of red. ans there you have it. i will post more pics as i get more progress mad. thanks, mike in k.c. http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i6...ensquire15.jpg
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    so freakin awesome

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    Great job mike!! Hi, I'm a first time/longtime and was wondering how you got the paint so smooth and not to run? I just bought a Fender Starcaster body off ebay and wanted to give it the frankie look. It looks like you hung the body from a wire and sprayed around the guitar...do you have any tips to avoid paint running while spraying, as I'm probably going to do the same thing, and use your pictures as a template...again, great job!!
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    thanks 5150canuck, i did hang it by a piece of welding wire to paint it except for the clear after the white, which i laid down flat and did one side at a time. after i hit it with white i thought for a second about not doing the red so i shot it with a ton of rattle can clear. then i came to my senses and masked it off and hit it with the red. as for technique i would just say follow the can directions really. i used just basic krylon rattle can semi-flat black, gloss white, and gloss red. each were $3.49/can. the clear is not necessary really. the directions say that after spraying, it's 15 minutes to touch and 1 hour to handle. krylon takes a while to "cure". i sprayed 3-4 coats of semi-flat black first. then the next day, taped and sprayed 3-4 coats of white. i let a few days go by before the red. take your time masking for the red. this is the most critical part of the job. what you are really trying to do is 1st, mask over a white and black striped guitar, and 2nd creating at the same time, red weird geometric shaped blocks! and you have to pay attention to both!!! i messed up on the upper horn where the well defined black wrapped stripes are. on mine i didn't mask enough of the longest black stripe. it's a small detail, one theat i can live with. i started out on the back with the 3/4" masking taped. this is where ed started i believe. this is mainly one long continuous stripe. i forget where it stops, but use the charvel art series guitars to guide you as well as the fender replica frankies. i lifted the pics from the musicians friend website. pay attention to how the stripes intersect everywhere. let me know how it turns out. i had no runs at all. i did put fairly heavy coats each time. after de-masking there will be ridges where the paint settles against the tape. you may avoid this by spraying lighter coats. i think i will use some 0000 steel wool in a small area to see if i can knock the high spots down and then just clear it the way it looks and not relic it at all. i kinda want it to look like it is a fresh guitar. also, be careful with squires, not all of them are layed out like mine was. some have what some have called a "swimming pool" shaped pickup cavity. it is just one larger open cavity unlike mine which was 3 separate chambers connected by a wire tunnel . i seen a guy build a frankie with the swimming pool cavity and it looked pretty much like mine at the same point. check out www.eddievanhalen.com and click the forums link. there is a massive forum dedicated to building eds guitars. good luck, mike in k.c.
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    Default floyd install help!!!!!!

    can anyone point me in right direction concerning the floyd install? i want to do it myself. my main concern; location! is the distance from the locking nut crucial? i am a machinist by trade so i am confident in my drilling, milling skills. my squire had a vintage type vibrato does this put me ahead of the game by having been drilled already? and what about "intonation"? so to recap, alignment, distance from locking nut to vibrato saddles, and intonation. can i lose the natural harmonics if i mess something up? thanks, mike in k.c.
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    Hi mike, thanks very much for the detailed info...its very much appreciated! I should hopefully receive my Strat body in the next week and time will tell if it turns out as well as your project...
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