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    Default Interesting Guitar Spied in the Zloz book

    So I received my copy of the Zloz's VH photo book, and lo and behold, on page 172 (or therabouts), there's a photo of Ed warming up backstage in '82and behind him, in addition to his regular lineup of axes from that tour is what looks to me like a black Gibson SG 12/6 doubleneck.

    I can't recall ever seeing a photo of that guitar or reading about it, has anyone else?

    Maybe it predated the Kramer doubleneck on the early dates of the tour?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soon to be EX-fan View Post
    So I received my copy of the Zloz's VH photo book, and lo and behold, on page 172 (or therabouts), there's a photo of Ed warming up backstage in '82and behind him, in addition to his regular lineup of axes from that tour is what looks to me like a black Gibson SG 12/6 doubleneck.

    I can't recall ever seeing a photo of that guitar or reading about it, has anyone else?

    Maybe it predated the Kramer doubleneck on the early dates of the tour?
    I remember Ed mentioning in an interview that he'd owned one (in fact on page 23 of the "Guitar Legends Van Halen Issue" (Guitar World Summer 2004 #871) there is a picture of it.

    He complained that the damned thing was simply far too heavy for him, and was not surprised that Jimmy Page tended to walk with a stoop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chefcraig View Post
    I remember Ed mentioning in an interview that he'd owned one (in fact on page 23 of the "Guitar Legends Van Halen Issue" (Guitar World Summer 2004 #871) there is a picture of it.

    He complained that the damned thing was simply far too heavy for him, and was not surprised that Jimmy Page tended to walk with a stoop.
    Didn't he mention recording "Secrets" on that guitar? Or one like it...I know they hadn't made the yellow Kramer doubleneck yet when they recorded.
    We train dogs for cattle and sheep herding. They're very different. Sheep are a lot like supermodels - they bunch together, they rattle very easily. Cattle are like drunks at a hockey game - two will want to fight: "Who are you and what's with your badge?"

    Two of them will be like: "Leave them alone, let's go see the game." Another one is lost: "Where'd you guys go?" The dog has to deal with all of that. You work them off a whistle. It's the original video game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmyw View Post
    Didn't he mention recording "Secrets" on that guitar? Or one like it...I know they hadn't made the yellow Kramer doubleneck yet when they recorded.
    Yup, 11 pages later (page 34, same issue) he mentions using the 12 string of the Gibson to record "Secrets", along with the comments from the above post.
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    He used that guitar on a Simple Rhyme also.

    Ed had a hard time with the Gibson and Kramer built him the Yellow double neck. The way Ed used to wear his guitar real high, the Gibson was uncomfortable.

    It sure sounded good and he played it well. I listened to Simple Rhyme a few weeks ago and I was blown away at how clean the intro is played.

    If you have ever recorded with a 12 string you know how hard it is to play one cleanly.

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    Wow, I thought I was pretty well read when it came to his gear, but I guess not! Thanks for all of the info. Since this was a backstage photo, I've got assume he played it on at least some early dates on the DD tour, but I've never seen a live shot of his playing that guitar....
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    Quote Originally Posted by bosstone.net View Post
    He used that guitar on a Simple Rhyme also.

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    Dude, I was about to say Simple Rhyme also, but for some reason I wasn't 100% sure he used it on that. It seemed like I had read something different once, so I went back and read an old GP interview and found this:

    **GP: What kind of a 12 string did you overdub in “Simple Rhyme”?

    **EVH: It’s a Rickenbacker electric. At first it didn’t sound right through my amp, and I asked Ted, “Can you doctor it up later in the mix?” Then I told him to forget it. I wanted to make it good out of the amp before it’s recorded. My theory is if it doesn’t sound good coming out of the speaker box, it ain’t going to happen on tape. ***

    I'm surprised I remembered that. I used to be Mr. VH Encyclopedia, but I"m gettin old and my brain don't fire like it used to.
    We train dogs for cattle and sheep herding. They're very different. Sheep are a lot like supermodels - they bunch together, they rattle very easily. Cattle are like drunks at a hockey game - two will want to fight: "Who are you and what's with your badge?"

    Two of them will be like: "Leave them alone, let's go see the game." Another one is lost: "Where'd you guys go?" The dog has to deal with all of that. You work them off a whistle. It's the original video game.
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    Jimmy I remember that interview now, I was sure that Ed used a Gibson, good eye. That Rickenbacher sure sounded nice with his Marshall. I saw the invasion tour and think they played simple rhyme live. Does anyone remember for sure?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bosstone.net View Post
    Jimmy I remember that interview now, I was sure that Ed used a Gibson, good eye. That Rickenbacher sure sounded nice with his Marshall. I saw the invasion tour and think they played simple rhyme live. Does anyone remember for sure?
    I think he played it live on a regular 6-string. It (or parts of it)was played under a different name on some of the older bootlegs and, like I said about my memory before, I can't remember what the original title was.
    We train dogs for cattle and sheep herding. They're very different. Sheep are a lot like supermodels - they bunch together, they rattle very easily. Cattle are like drunks at a hockey game - two will want to fight: "Who are you and what's with your badge?"

    Two of them will be like: "Leave them alone, let's go see the game." Another one is lost: "Where'd you guys go?" The dog has to deal with all of that. You work them off a whistle. It's the original video game.
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    We've got a picture of the guitar here...

    http://www.diamonddavidleeroth.com/f...7089#msg227089
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